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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

you all best buckle up, because it's gonna get a lot worse

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

60% is a majority, right? The article was working really hard to downplay it. “The bottom 60%” that’s more than half the country… social unrest will be the least of their worries

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 66 points 3 days ago

Hunter Thompson wrote "Hell's Angels" in 1967.

There's a passage about the economics of being a biker/hippie/dropout.

In those days, a biker could work six months as a union stevedore and then hit the road for two years. A part time waitress could could support herself and a live-in boy freind

Then Nixon/Reagan came in to save us.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 130 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Richest country in the world doesn't take care of its citizens. Funny how that works

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or it's not actually the richest.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

From the point of view of most people total country GDP is meaningless (only certain businesses get a "cut" of the total country GDP and hence it matters to them), and per-capita GDP is what matters and even then how much it matters depends on the level of inequality in a country since when a few get most of the wealth that per-capita value (which is the median) is quite different from what actually most people get (the mode).

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

2 economist walking in the woods.

Economist 1 says to economists 2: I’ll give you $100 if you let me kick you in the balls.

Economist 2 says “sure”

Then economist 1 kicks economists 2 in the balls and gives him $100.

They continue walking and see a big pile of shit.

Economist 2 says to economist 1: I’ll give you $100 if you eat that pile of shit.

Economist 1 says “sure”, eats the pile of shit and economists 2 gives economists 1 his $100 back.

They continue walking, eventually economist 2 asks “What was the point of what we just did?”

Economist 1 responds “We just increased GDP by $200.”

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Looks like it's time to eat the rich.

They have too much power and resources now. We aren't going to get a better quality of life through peaceful means.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

We need magats to get angry. They’re the reason why this shit show is still going on.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There's a relatively nonviolent solution America can do, but it would be complex to organize. Stop. Anyone that can stop working for even a day, or a week. Just pick a starting point and stop working, buying, consuming. They can't fire everyone.

[–] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’d love to see it but I think they could outlast us and would love at the chance to buy up failing small businesses and property during that time.

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 4 points 2 days ago

I agree. Only 5% at most would follow through, and most of that 5% are non-vital employees, you don't even have a union culture to organise this, and the best the democrats have done is stay silent.

Again, I agree, this would work if we organise it.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 101 points 3 days ago

It is almost like we are being scammed.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But you have millionaires who play kids games on tv and billionaire celebrities made famous by their looks or money, that go on to play government in real life in all your major political offices. Multi millionaire actors and starving paramedics. What an advanced society.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 48 points 3 days ago (2 children)

America was a great experiment in maxing out capitalism and rugged individualism. Now all other countries know how it will end and to oust any politician even hinting at doing the same.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

America and the UK, together they show the world what not to do. Conservatism and oligarchs are poisons that kill civilizations.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I really think we need a sublemmy dedicated to specifically tracking the high stakes competition between the US and UK to spectacularly faceplant in the stupidest possible fashion.

It is a very close competition so far and there have been a lot of upsets in the sense that it has made us all upset that the world is burning.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago

"...Stupidity, Phobia, Greed, Wrath, and Traditional Values...from your powers combined, I am Captain Conservative!"

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 days ago

There was a time when I thought the 2016 Brexit referendum was going to be the dumbest political story of the year. Then the US said "hold my watery beer".

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

I like your optimism, but sadly I cannot share it..

[–] hark@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Credit is doing a lot of heavy lifting. If credit seizes up, then it all falls apart. That's why interest rates have been held low for so long.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That’s because we haven’t cut taxes for the rich quiiiite enough yet

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Those trickle down economics, I'm still waiting on them since the fucker beat Decocus.

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[–] Letmecalux5@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which country has the highest millionaires in the world?

The U.S

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[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Of course, a true kingdom requires impoverished serfs. Welcome to techno-feudalism.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Also nothing new, they did a big news report in Reno like 20 years ago and cost of living was about double what the average income was for the city. You had a two income family or roommates, or live at home.

[–] dullbananas@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To convince more people, it may help to have an analysis that doesn't include celebratory dinners, eating out, physical television, etc. The inclusion of those things are either a drop in the bucket or have good enough rationales, but too many Americans are too dumb to accept that.

[–] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

If Americans stopped doing that the economy would crash, people would lose their jobs, and most people wouldn’t be able to afford to live.

So it’s the same thing in the end.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (6 children)

"The middle class has been declining — we just haven't recognized it fully," LISEP Chairman Gene Ludwig told CBS MoneyWatch. "It's really dangerous because it's the kind of thing that leads to social unrest, and it's not fair. The American dream is not that it's given to you — it's that if you work hard, you have a chance to get ahead and achieve the things in life that you want to achieve. It's not living in a tent, not having to steal."

The wealthy always forget this, because they're convinced they're a special unique snowflake and smarter than everyone else, instead of understanding they were just lucky.

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

People have bee saying this for a while now.... this isn't news anymore. Why is he still alive?

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago

No shit….

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We knew this since the 70s

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have been saying this for a while. It seems like a really bad idea to push the most armed populous on the planet to the breaking point. One day the shooting is going start and it isn't going to stop.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have friends in their 30s who were surprised about maxing out their IRA because where are they going to get an extra $6k?

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Stock market gambling games and communism for the billionaires.

Social darwinist, survival of the fittest, ruthless exploitative capitalism for the poors.

[–] yukichigai@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

By design, I'm sure. Can't have those poors even thinking about saving money.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Y'all needed a study to find this out! Y'all could have just asked me and saved a whole bunch of time!

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Studies like this are important so that politicians can't as easily dismiss it, at least in theory. In practice it's so that those doing the study can shout "Called it" when shit inevitably hits the fan. Still useful though.

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