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Also noteworthy that not only are PS5 sales behind PS4, but the PlayStation's competition has almost entirely disappeared, and that hasn't resulted in more PlayStations sold.

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[–] tuckerm@feddit.online 124 points 3 days ago (3 children)

In case anyone misread the headline the way I did: The PS5 is selling about the same as the PS4 did at this point in its lifespan. The headline kind of makes it sound like the PS4 is still selling as many consoles as the PS5 today.

Honestly, I'm kind of surprised that it's selling that well at all, considering how much of this generation has just been remasters of PS4 games.

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thats not misreading, thats them not being clear.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

On purpose.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Thank you, yes. That's a bad headline.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, this means they sold a lot of PS5s, very surprising. The PS4 was extremely successful

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 64 points 3 days ago (6 children)

This generation lacked must play games or technological breakthroughs. It was just kinda... there?

[–] Oneser@lemm.ee 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

System based exclusives meaning you might not be able to play a game you want to in the future, expensive subscriptiona needed to play online, push to digital DRM controlled games.. it's almost like consoles killed themselves?

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Well the alternative is PC gaming, and building a competitive PC aint cheap. I remember on launch people were building computers with similar performance to the xbone/ps4. But now that entry level dGPUs aren't a thing, and even mid range GPUs are expensive you get fucked either way.

The PS5 is at least powerful on launch. The 4 was on par with like a regular APU.

[–] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 19 points 3 days ago

It used to be easy to build a PC that was double the performance of a console for the same price. And it was even easier if you sourced slightly used current hardware. Now you’re lucky to get last gen hardware for a decent price used. The market is garbage.

Back in 2014 you could get brand new motherboards for ~$50, where it’s difficult to find any under $150 that provide decent features. I think the most expensive thing at the time was NAND due to flooded factories but everything else was super cheap.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 2 days ago

If you're not too stuck on modern AAA titles, PC gaming is cheap. Possibly the cost of the electricity coming out of the wall.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Mini pcs are a thing and they get better every year.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I think more and more people have done the math on what your break-even is with a PC up front compared to noncompetitive digital console storefronts, needless forced obsolescence, and subscription fees.

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[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its not ps5, its ps4 pro pro. They’re the same console and Im tired of pretending otherwise.

[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

This implies the PS5 pro is the PS4 pro pro pro

[–] match@pawb.social 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Switch ate them all while being 2 generations behind

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

After Nintendo saw how much the Wii succeeded while effectively being a gamecube with motion controls and a DVD drive vs. two "top tier titans", they never bothered again with being at the forefront of tech, which possibly felt like a homecoming, considering the Famicom was kinda underpowered at release, but cheap to produce.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

technological breakthroughs

What, the dumbass case design with the useless flat corner bits awkwardly sticking out of it wasn't innovative enough for you?

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Oh, if you're a fighting game player, the innovation is impossible to miss. Now there's only one USB port on the front, so when you play at locals and majors, you have to spin the console around to blow all the heat directly at the people trying to play a competitive match so that their controller cords will reach the additional USBs in back. Also it gets hot enough to melt the connectors that you're plugging in there. Also we all had to update our controllers specifically for PS5 even though our PS4 controllers still functioned just fine. So innovative.

This is going to piss off some people, but I knew this generation was in trouble when HellDivers became big.

That game isn't hot garbage, per se, but the fact that it got the success it did is a pretty damning indictment of the state of multiplayer shooters.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Im amazed its selling so well considering its pointless.

[–] Ushmel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does playstation still dominate international sales? I remember that being a thing for previous generations

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

According to this chart, yes, the PS5 is leading by roughly 40 million units compared to the current XSX

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

PS4 was when xbox users switched over to PlayStation.

PS5 was when PS4 users users switched back to the roots, a PC.

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This is true for me. I did not buy a ps5, but instead a PC. There are no games on ps5 that I want to play that I cannot play on PC.

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[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This headline would imply that PS4 users are upgrading to PS5 at almost the same rate that they upgraded or moved to the PS4.

Honestly, it's pretty surprising considering the PS4 is still kind of a current console. I'd think a lot of people would be satisfied staying with the PS4 and still getting most of the games that are coming out.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's a growing market though.

Xbox one and X/S sales are neck in neck with xbox 360 sales too.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wouldn't that imply it's not a growing market anymore?

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Saleh@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the jump is more Covid related than having to do with any of the other consoles.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Possible, but the market grew after that as well, while consoles stagnated.

I got a PC in 2020 when PS5 was released for 1200€ at your scalper of choice. So the statistics reflect my own switch perfectly.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you already have a PC, no matter how old and shoddy, you will be able to run games on it and become a PC gamer. There was no investment hurdle in 2020, while you need a console to become a console gamer, so you need to buy one first. Most people do have a PC for non gaming uses anyways.

This is also why mobile gaming is so widespread now. People have a phone anyways, so might as well install a game or two on it.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

You missed the link I posted, it's PC sales. Why do you insist on your gut feeling when the data suggests otherwise?

Consoles have stagnated, PC sales has increased year over year and also PC gamers have increased year over year. If it would be because of covid, I would expect a Stagnation afterwards.

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

A used ps4 is probably the best value in gaming right now. For ~$200 you can get the console and a bunch of games.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

You can also jailbreak it, depending on the firmware version

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

The best time to buy a console is just after its sequel is released, lots of people upgrading and selling their old one with all the games and controllers

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I always said that about the PS2, or early model PS3s if you can get one for a reasonable price. Backwards compatibility galore.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

A PS2 with FreeMCBoot is always a great option. If you can get a phat model and stick a HDD there, you're golden

[–] Kinokoloko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago

This is the first console generation where I bought and sold a console before the next gen came along. I got one of those PS5 emails while they were still somewhat limited, and decided to jump on it like a dumbass. Two years later, sold it to recoup the cost of my Steam Deck. The only real exclusive it has that I played was the Demon's Souls remake, and that just wasn't enough to convince me to keep it around. Looks like the other exclusives I have missed out on since then is...(checks notes)...Astro Bot...and that's it. Oh well.

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