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South African officials and agricultural leaders reject U.S. claims of genocide against white farmers, calling them unfounded and politically motivated.

Trump granted refugee status to 59 white South Africans, citing "brutal killings" and land seizures under South Africa’s 2023 Expropriation Act.

However, experts argue rural crime affects all races equally and lacks racial motivation. Data shows farm deaths impact both white and Black individuals.

Critics view Trump’s claims and Elon Musk’s support as misinformed.

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[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 hours ago

Why is NBC pretending like the claim has any validity?

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 43 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Let's not forget we're dealing with the Administration that lied about Hatian immigrants eating pets, and when called on it the VP (candidate at the time) said, "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.”

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 hours ago

Dude admits to lying/explicitly making shit up and his followers will be like "No, he just means that he'll explain things in meaningful ways even if it's exaggerated a bit so that people will pay attention"

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 59 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

yeah...elon actually has a massive chip on his shoulder about "liberals" ending Apartheid. And it looks increasingly clear that he has putin-level "the greatest tragedy of the 20th century" revanchism/trauma in his sick mind. No wonder he's a neo-nazi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaner_Weerstandsbeweging

From bashing and trying to destabilize actual democracies and multilateral bodies of international law, kowtowing to dictators, supporting far-right parties with money, stirring popular support for racism, complaining about white genocide and replacement theory, censoring progressive ideas, opposing unions, it is all in there.

[–] lennee@lemm.ee 29 points 12 hours ago

The double standard really comes down to skin color with these ppl. A disgrace to have these guys in the white house.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

Lol it's ridiculous what people have to do to overcome the lies of this guy's administrations. Why tf anyone takes a word out of his mouth for truth, I'll never know. But I sure as hell know it means we as a species are doomed.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 24 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Is there racially motivated violence in South Africa? Sure. But calling it genocide is an attempt at emotional manipulation to amplify the division and hatred. And the American "liberals" are falling straight into the trap of denying anti-white racism, thus confirming the genocide narrative.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, every country has some sort of racially/ethnically motived violence. Humans in general are stupid.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Our ability to categorize and generalize things is a blessing and a curse

Do you have any source that maintains that American liberals are accepting this lie?

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 9 points 12 hours ago

Agreed. And when we call this kind of behaviour a "genocide" it muddies the waters for actual genocides occurring around the world. This is NOT a genocide, and there should be more pushback against casually dropping a term like that around.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

American liberals will always fall into every trap ever laid. Stick them in a forest and show them a tree, and that's all they can see.

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

This is actually a big comedy moment in South Africa - look up "Die Groot Tsek" on social media!

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It's not "misinformed" when you are explicitly racist. Thats called being a fucking racist. Trump and musk know they are lying, they just want to virtue signal to other shitty people that they are the shittiest of people so everyone should fear/follow them.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago

This is actually bad for the discriminated parties as well.

The South African government is using race based restitution legislation as a vehicle for bribes and corruption. They use it as a gate keeper to make sure that only those in the good graces with the political elite get opportunities.