This is the shit I'm worried about when family members tell me I should expand and keep my mind open to moving somewhere to chase a job. I don't have the resiliency to survive a failure like this.
Work Reform
A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.
Our Philosophies:
- All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
- Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
- Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
- We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.
Our Goals
- Higher wages for underpaid workers.
- Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
- Better and fewer working hours.
- Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
- Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.
the last paragraph took this post from "that sucks" to solidly "yea this didn't happen" territory It's just more pro corporate slop meant to keep people on the platform instead of going out and looking for local jobs or going to actual websites to find open positions
General advice before was to wait until you’ve signed the contract and have a start date before quitting your current job. Now you have to wait until you actually start the new job before you quit the old one?
I mean, we live in a hellscape. Even if they had given him a start date, they can still fire him at any point for no reason. Labor has almost no protections (in the US, at least). It would be only slightly less bad to accept the new job, take it, quit the old job, and then get fired.
I'd rather we have like basic income, free health care, and public housing, so people don't need to worry about dying because some capitalist is willing to hire them.
And even if you do start the new job, most jobs have a probationary period around ninety days where they can just let you go for no reason at all.
Surely there are protections from this. If you have a signed employment contract and have given notice to your existing employer.
Oh, no wait. Working at Capitol One and an offer from PayPal so I guess they are in the US.
Lol here in the US there are no such protections. You have to fend for yourself.
Anything else would be communism since it would infringe on the company's freedom to do with its human resources whatever the hell it pleases. Therefore, death cultists across the United States will adamantly oppose worker's rights until their final breath.
I don't think there are explicit employer/employee federal regulations for that. There could be at the state level. However there are absolutely damages that occurred and a remedy can be pursued. It's called promissory estoppel. A signed offer letter is a legally binding document. They don't just get to wiggle out of that legally.
Peter Thiel is evil. Don't work for him. Don't use his products.
As evidenced by his preposterously plagiarized company naming schemes that obnoxiously demonstrate to the world how profoundly he missed the point of Lord of the Rings, by going team Mordor and thinking he's the hero. . .
When above all else, he desires power.
That is partially on you
Don't trust companies, especially big companies.
You want me to move to a different city? Pay me.
You want me to quit my current job? I will right after I have signed an actual contract that guarantees I'll have a job with you.
I will NOT risk my life for some billionaire CEO
No, this is on you guys for not having laws or unions. If a company pulls this shit off here they get to pay multiple months of paychecks in damages because they had signed the contract. And even still they cant just lay somebody off like that.
Welcome to modern society :')
I feel for this guy.
But I’ve also learned a valuable lesson in my travels: never, ever quit an existing job until after you’ve started your new job.
Not just accepted the offer, but attended your orientation day and got your new badge in hand. Then give your resignation.
Yes, I’d love to give my coworkers more of my time for offboarding and project hand-off, but in this world you have to look after yourself first. It sucks, but it’s how it is.
Never give a two-week notice. When you do that, your current employer may give you a new offer, but if you accept it, your tenure will not be the same, since you’re now seen as a flight risk, and they’ll look for a way to dispense with you and replace you within a year, or two, max.
If you're in Germany, don't do this.
(Because legally binding contracts are legally binding, you would violate both and probably get fucked over income taxes, dunno. On the other hand, companies are bound to contracts as well and you're protected from bullshit like that)
Yup.
I had to get it out of my last role but I liked a lot of the people I worked with. So I gave a 60-day resignation. Which would give them time to bring in a new person to fill the role. And give me time to hand over different platforms and processes. And teach him how to do the job.
24 hours later I was laid off on the spot and my accounts all shut down.
Now a month later they have hired a new guy and he's messaging me on LinkedIn begging for help.
I feel sorry for him. But fuck that...