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This may be a joke but nicotine treats symptoms of adhd
Is this for real? It would make sense why my adhd feels like it is getting worse as I age. I quit speed, then smoking, then caffeinated drinks.
Edit: yes, thank you all for adhdsplaining stimulants to me. I know about speed and caffeine. I was simply asking about nicotine.
Nicotine is a mild simulant, yes. All of those things are frequently used by people to "self-medicate", but the downsides are obviously pretty steep.
And most self medication options are pretty bad at the medicating part.
Yes. All stimulants treat the symptoms of ADHD. You were self-medicating that whole time, although your results were way worse than you would get with a controlled dosage of a time-release stimulant like Adderall. If you don't want to go back to stimulants, even under a medical setting, regular exercise will help regulate your symptoms (I personally like 30 to 40 minutes of cardio 3 to 4 times a week).
I vape. It is helpful. I've quit a couple times,and it's correlated with suicidal thoughts. (I hesitate to claim it is casual, but definitely correlated.)
Stimulants help with ADHD symptoms. Adderall is chemically similar to speed.
I decided I didn't need my ADHD meds anymore when I was in my late teens. Spent most of my 20s smoking about a pack a day and drinking 6 or 7 cups of coffee. I quit smoking in my late 20s, struggled until my early 30s, then started taking my medicine again and realized I was an idiot.
Oh. So these are medicinal cigarettes I'm smoking?
It is true, it seems, that Nicotine treats ADHD. There is at least one study that showed nicotine patches (18h and 24h ones) provide a mild to moderate relief for ADHD in people that do not use nicotine otherwise (e.g. nonsmokers). So, it doesn't just treat the symptoms of nicotine withdrawal.
Cigarette smoke is known to contain a clinically significant amount of MAO inhibiters that are not nicotine. MAO inhibiters are regularly used to treat depression and anxiety, and theoretically could treat ADHD since MAOI's generally prevent breakdown of dopamine. There is some nuance here.*
This is super interesting. Can you link the sources? I'd be interested in knowing if this MAO deal is exclusive to cigarettes or is also present in the ecologically superior and marginally healthier pipe tobacco
Thanks to my wife I've come to learn that I probably have ADHD. I never would have realized it on my own, but it's so obvious when someone points it out. If she has an extra cup of coffee she is buzzing and shaking for hours, whereas its basically a sedative to me. I can drink a whole pot and still pass out on the couch for a mid day nap lol.
I'm not sure that this is universal. I've been diagnosed with ADHD, and ADHD drugs do help me focus. But I'm super sensitive to caffeine, too. If I have even a can of soda at night, I can't fall asleep.
Ah, yes. that explains why i still crave cigarettes after quitting 10 years ago.
I received my strongest encouragement to never smoke when my high school history teacher said he hasn't smoked in fifteen years but will see someone smoking and think to himself: damn that looks tasty
Can patches do the same?
good question. I don't have cravings for patches, i do to a lesser extent to the nicotine inhalers. It's the smell, taste, and feel of a real cigarette that is so fundametally linked to "this is good!" in my brain.
My theory, which there's no evidence, is that we ignore the effects of modern society, and that people are very anxious. And sometimes we're too caught up in our own ass to recognize anxious behavior, but some people get overwhelmed. I feel a lot of people are in a constant state of fight or flight and with things like the fear of missing out or the constant push and pull of this meaning of life, making a peasant's wage without even a peasant's day off creates very scatter-brained, anxious, citizens. Cigarettes are stimulants. People do drugs because they're sad. People normalize this sadness because what else is there? I mean, imagine losing your job and being really good at it, but then some subservient cock sucker is getting promoted. And you sit there and expected to internalize this. I mean, you ain't no rocket scientist, but you can fucking do basic algebra, and the numbers don't fucking add up. Not only that. You learn that the metrics aren't even taken in account, certain variables. So it's just like lower the bar we're doing great. I also think the emotional trauma that people experience can manifest itself. As it repeats itself over and over again, the brain chemistry changes. It is a self-fulfilling fucking prophecy. is the by-product of a world with exponential gains is the by-product of a world with exponential gains but no improvement at the bottom. Mass shooters are the byproduct of socioeconomics. Stop calling people incells. They're fucking mad, angry, confused, and poor. Men are suffering. Women are suffering. Families are suffering. And memes, they don't do enough. There is no war but the class war. https://www.theviolenceproject.org/
So your link is to a great org, doing good work, but I was secretly hoping it was a link to a “violence project” detailing a plan for a violent class war … :( I think I need to relax
Nic+Vyvanse+Caffeine. Father+son+holy spirit.
France trading ADHD for Ennui
I prefer vaginal but do you boo.
The children yearn for the ~~mines~~ nicotine
I get hypomania from intense stimulants like Vyvanse but atomoxetin, which I'm on right now, doesn't work as well even at the highest dosages. Sooooo I heavily self medicate with nicotine, it's good that it also feels amazing
Just don't smoke actual cigarettes, guys. I guess everything tobacco is bad (I'd argue for snuff though), but cigarettes really are that much worse than everything else
Why not nicotine gum? Or the patches?
(Asking as someone who grew up around smokers, dippers, and chawers - and now I'm incredibly grossed out by tobacco spit)
Why take the atomoxetin if it doesn't work and nicotine does?
Snuff fucks up your mouth. Scroll down to cancer and dental:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/quit-smoking/in-depth/chewing-tobacco/art-20047428
That's moist snuff, taken orally, not dry snuff, which is taken nasally. It's a common misunderstanding about snuff brought on by the US government's refusal to update their terminology... In 2025 snuff means only dry nasal, while most people refer to "moist snuff" as snus or chaw :)
The atomoxetin does work, it's just not as strong and as consistent as necessary. I have gotten the go ahead to use Ritalin at low doses in particularly low functioning days (along with atomoxetin), but last time I tried it made me dangerously hypomanic. So I take some espresso shots and pinches of snuff throughout the day, or maybe a Zyn, which I recognize the risks of using, but it's only occasional
"treats"
Tbf he said symptoms, not cause.
"Temporary alleviates" then. It also has a mild, though short-lived, antipsychotic effect, which is thought to be the reason people suffering from schizophrenia tend to be chain smokers at a higher rate than the general population.
Can confirm, had a schizophrenic roommate for a little over a year and I always made sure he had his smokes. Just made things easier for both of us.