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[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 206 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Right now, wherever you are, there are people paid by the USA trying their best to make your life worse in order to

  • Align your country's foreign policy closer to the goals to that of the USA
  • Shape your economy so that American corporations can enrich themselves by extracting the maximum value out of your country.

So yeah, there is no escape from America. That's the whole point of being the global hegemon.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't think enough people noticed the Trump regime's demands that EU destroy their own healthcare just so theirs could look, well, not better but less terrible by comparison.

This is not a joke. These people will absolutely do everything they can to rob the few nations on this Earth that manage to take care of their citizens to the point they're all beholden to the same crime lord family.

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, do not even for a second entertain the notion that European companies wouldn't love it if your health insurance were held hostage by your employment like it is in the USA.

The truth of the matter is European quality of life has been coasting on the gains made in the past by the blood and sweat of the unions and the concessions made by the governments to stave off the specter of communism. Billionaires in the US are seeing this slice of wealth and are coming for it via the populist right-wing parties in every country. If anyone can get this fact through the thick skull of anti-immigrant voters, let me know.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah I've been in a few places around Europe, and it really seems that in Western Europe, labour movements made big gains in like the 1970s and neolib governments have been squandering that ever since, and we are nearing the point where it all turns fash.

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Mexican here, and absolutely. The USA is menacing with tariffs each month even with a treaty signed by the POTUS himself. Who, btw, has a boner for sending troops to "help" us combat drug cartels that are somehow related to the DEA, the CIA, the FBI, or the WTFK. Recently, they sent a green-beret warhawk as ambassador. The US embassy in Mexico is the biggest in the world and it had participated in magnicides and coups. So, yeah, the classic American state is dying, but its death will be an authentic superbowl of a shitshow.

Good thing Trump's absolutely destroyed any kind of international leverage the United States had. That's the one silver lining to all of this: The USA has been on a steady path to fascism for a while, accelerating under Republicans and slowing down under Democrats but never reversing. However, now that you've gone fully mask-off you did it under the leadership of an outright moron, who's making it much harder for Americans to drag the rest of the world down with them.

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[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 117 points 1 day ago (15 children)

You shouldn't be sleeping soundly. Most of you are only a few steps behind us on the same path.

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lucky bastard, can you like abduct me or something?

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago

If you don't come to America, America comes to you.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I’ve found the USA to have some of the nicest, most welcoming people I’ve ever met. Probably some of these people have been lead down dark voting paths, against their own, and the world’s, best interests. All we can really hope for is enough people speak sense persuasively enough for them to hear it. And that means being understanding, empathetic and tolerant.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This comment is a breath of fresh air in this doomer echo chamber. Somewhere along the line people stopped wanting to fix things and now the people we need to save this country are leaving in droves. We need to remain positive and organized.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Every month I am reminded that this isn't my country. It's my landlords country, and I just temporarily rent a basement here.

Why doesn't my landlord fix his country?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

We're trying to convince them, and so far none of them are listening.

Families all over the US and Canada are being torn apart. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime, and I'm not a young man...

I fear greatly not just for my own country, but for the damage that will be done to the entire world if we can't stop this.

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[–] the_q@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most Americans don't live in America.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They mean live vs just existing.

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 64 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thats what i thought before 2 pro-Trump fascists almost won the election in my country

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Luckily in my country, the vaguely trump style politician not only lost the election, but didn't get enough votes in his own district and is no longer a politician. Same thing happened in Canada.

[–] batman0730@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

but now Alberta allegedly wants to secede...

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[–] MistressMaiden@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago

I wish I could be all of you rn

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I live in America. It's 2 AM and I just awoke from a nightmare wherein I was running from the govt. My wife, dog, and I were in hiding at my home, with friends occupying the place to help us stay hidden. But a drone spotted me. I shot it down, but we had 10 minutes to pack what I could into a short yellow schoolbus (which quickly became a British double-decker) and take off before agents showed up to capture or kill us.

By the way, I'm a white male, married to a white woman, and by all outside appearances, cis and "normal". Probably one of the most protected classes in America right now. And even I'm having nightmares about where our country is headed and when it'll be "my turn."

I woke up, picked up my tablet, and this was the top post in my feed. 😣

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[–] dan00@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago (8 children)

When I was a dumb kid, I really wanted to come and live in the US. I managed to visit it twice.

I will never ever go again. 🤞

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago

The problem is that so many of us INSIDE the US still sleep like that, especially the ones who match homer’s kind of “dopey white middle aged boomer dad who raised a family on a single factory job” demographic.

I match some of those demographics, like the dopey white middle aged USAmerican dad raising a family with his one income. I don’t match him in other areas because I am an over-educated tech worker living in an old cheap blue collar neighborhood to make it happen in current day.

I am extremely unhappy and embarrassed about just about every single thing that has my country is in the news, to say the least. It makes me sad and worried for the entire world. Giving a shit about other people while evil morons are grabbing power will do that to you.

But for people who look like me and don’t follow what’s going on in the world or care about other people? My day to day real life in my local physical environment is comfortable and privileged as hell, and so is a lot of theirs.

Combine that with our culture where a “successful” life is constant stress over the rat race and keeping up with the Joneses, so that you are worried about making the payments on your luxury SUV rather than whether your government is destroying people you don’t know while funneling your resources to people who already have 1000x more than you.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn’t choose to be born here and wish I was born somewhere where I wasn’t constantly fearing for what tomorrow could bring. But since I was born here I have to figure out a way to navigate this shit show of a country till I can flee

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine if this said "How I sleep knowing I don't live in Palestine, and never will."

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The difference is Americans actively voted for their current situation

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

About 30% of Americans did, and that's the segment least representative of what average people actually want.

This isn't an "America bad" situation as much as an "Oh fuck, capitalism just took down America, who is it coming for next?" situation.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

60% of americans voted for this. Because deciding not to show up to the polls to vote against fascism is voting for it.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I see this misconception all over the place and I can only assume it stems from not understanding the electoral college.

You overestimate how many people live in swing states.

Every non-voter who lives in California voted for Kamala. All of the state's EC votes went to her.

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's not that 60% was "okay with fascism."

It's that "60% of people have embraced toxic nihilism." Shaped from years of scrolling, overdosing on dopamine, reading and participating in contentious debates on the internet that never lead to an outcome, reading clickbait headlines that stopped making sense years ago, going home and sitting in front of a monitor instead of going out with friends to hang out and just talk about life, of eating the most addictive foods and getting all manner of drugs over the counter to alter their moods, their feelings, their perceptions.

We have everything to placate us and make us happy and it's killing everyone.

Many years ago I once sat with a local captain (like a constable) of a village in Southeast Asia. We were drinking gin and looking at the stars and he said "You know why gin here is cheap? And sold on every corner? Because as long as everyone makes their number one priority at the end of the day to come home and get drunk, you won't get people coming together and forming groups, of protesting the injustices, of changing the system" he said with a smile as he tossed back another shot.

Since then I've actually pursued this and have found evidence over and over how capital uses numbing agents to keep populations subdued, from the overt tactics well recorded and planned like the use of Opium in China, all the way through more modern places like Russia and vodka. And it works. And we have a lot more numbing agents around us now than just ingestible substances.

In places with fewer numbing agents, people are still having kids, still throwing parties and looking forward to poker every night with their grown siblings, of building a new barn or getting together to open a new store, or instead of spending 12 hours a day getting better at Marvel Rivals, they're playing basketball. Sure it happens here still, but it's in such radical decline that we have a dictator in charge and nobody cares. This is manufactured nihilism and don't mistake it for something else because that's exactly what the numbing agents want you to do.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Are you aware of how difficult/impossible it is for many Americans to vote? The GOP has dedicated decades to disenfranchising voters, and rigging elections via gerrymandering.

That's why this wasn't even close... He won by a landslide, despite the popular vote being razor-thin. He also won the last election in 2016 despite the popular vote being lost.

My country is severely fucked up at a governmental level.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

All of us voted for this? Every American? The ignorance I see sometimes here on Lemmy is astounding sometimes...

A graph showing razor-tgin margins for Trump's 2024 victory

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is your defence? LOL

Only 29.8% of Americans cared enough to stop a known criminal with an authoritarian bent become the last president you'll ever have.

31% wanted it.

1.1% voted for someone they knew wouldn't win.

38.1% don't give a shit what happens. Possibly these people were purged from voter rolls and had their vote stolen. But knowing Americans, I'd happen to guess that percent is well below .5% of the non-voter segment.

Pathetic.

[–] rylock@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No one said all. Don't accuse others of ignorance when your reading comprehension is this bad. When people say Americans voted for this, it's because they don't let the 38% of non-voters off the hook for their passivity. Voting is a duty and their negligence led to this outcome.

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