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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 90 points 11 hours ago (10 children)

you fucking idiot, it's NEVER EVER EVER coming to the US.

NEVER.

a 25% increase in cost is still MUCH more preferable to bringing all of that shit to the US. probably by orders of magnitude. can you even fathom (of course you can't) what you would need to do to have a 100% American iphone?

let's say you're bringing the iphone manufacturing plant to the US. let's even assume this move is subsidized so the new factory is going to cost only time.

the iphone isn't put together from mere atoms. parts of it need to be manufactured first. there's the screen, the glass, the aluminum case, several cameras, the battery, the ram, the storage, the CPU, the GPU, the receiver, accelerometer, gyroscope, etc etc... how much of that shit do you think is made in the USA?

so there's tariffs an all of that. or to avoid them you need to make several new factories, and have other companies that provide these things also move their factories... and these factories don't just have people create electronics by hand. you need machines. where do you think those are made? who makes them? so now you need the manufacturers of manufacturing robots to move their factories to the US.

and all these factories now employ people with much higher salaries.

all in all, a move like that would halt production for years and when it comes back every iphone would probably cost $47000.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Based on the numbers from Purism, it could be a lot more than 25% more expensive to manufacture everything in USA. Purims Librem 5 costs 799 $, while the made-in-America version costs 1999 $. That's roughly a 2.5x difference. Obviously, economies of scale play a role too but let's assume that the same factor applies to iPhones too. If so, the fanciest iPhone would cost about 4000 $.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

too lazy to check but does the "made in America" version have all its parts also made in America? coz i doubt it. if not, each and every part made outside the US would also get tariffed.

[–] Pzulu@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

No, the US Purism phone is not 100% American.

They have a different supply chain for it where European manufacturers are used for some parts.

But some things are only made in China. So I think what was said is Purism source some of the raw materials for these items and have them made to a higher tolerance for reliability.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 25 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

It's because Donald can't envisage the supply chain for anything more complex than a Trump flag or a MAGA hat.

In his mind, housewives can be knocking iPhones out in Bumfuck, Mississippi.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Excuse me, sir. There is no town in Mississippi called "Bumfuck". That town is firmly within the boundaries of Iowa.

Mississippi would never stoop to the level of Iowa in having Bumfuck, Iowa. Mississippi is more elegant in its nomenclature. Thus, if you wish to make a point about a town in the middle of nowhere in Mississippi, please respect Mississippi by referring to such a town as Cousin-Hump, Mississippi. Thank you.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago

Fun you should bring up his merch because literally all of it is Chinese or Indian produced.

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[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 8 points 8 hours ago

🫢

Bro really went off on him…

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

We don't even have silicon availability. I don't mean chips or printed boards, I mean processed quarts crushed into powder.

We would have to start opening strip mines and building massive furnaces and crushers and expanding railways. It's just not feasible.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 18 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

and expanding railways

Do it.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

Rest assured if they fix the rail system or will be to put us in cattle cars on a rather unfun one way trip.

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[–] Dlayknee@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

John Oliver did a segment on this about a month ago, but yeah, you just nailed it.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

And they'd still need to maintain their non-US factories due to the retaliatory tariffs many countries are putting on US products.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 6 points 7 hours ago

Looks like Apple is balking at paying the required bribe.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 46 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Can you imagine if Joe Biden said shit like "I'm going to make your pleb shit more expensive because I refuse to just admit a mistake and therefore will double down on my bad policy."

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[–] Neuromorph@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Apple should just not sell them in the US then.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Profiteers foregoing the largest source of profit? Not likely.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Do it to everyone, I dare you. Nerds get heated. Please it will end sooner for him.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

i feel like there are many nerds that voted for him

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

More like didn’t vote at all

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

That’s just the loudest voices, not the majority.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I bet Tim Apple is really happy about his large donation to the Trump inauguration.

Then again, if you're that rich, maybe having some intelligence and foresight should be an expectation. If you don't have those things, maybe you shouldn't be rich.

That said, for a 25% tariff, it isn't even close. Still far cheaper for Apple to manufacture outside of the US and pass that additional cost to the US consumer.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Tim Apple wipes his ass with million dollar bills.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 hours ago

It is, perhaps, the only thing he touches that is made in the USA.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Who does he think he's talking to?

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

His subordinates, who else?

[–] superminerJG@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Trump on his way to make Android phones more popular (they're not as highly tariffed)

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[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 16 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Coming this fall: the new iPhone Republican edition (iPhone RE)

-cheaper construction and materials, yet somehow features a higher price tag -tons of backdoors (this time, intentional) -only connects to approved propaganda sites -reports all biometric data to the GOP -zaps you whenever it detects a thought the party dislikes -integrates with neurolink (not optional, you sick deviant)

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Tarriffs are an articulable cost that can be direclt passed on to the consumer. Income taxes would be something more manageable and the company would need to figure out what to pay. But, Republicans increasing taxes on their donors? Ha!

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 122 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

It sounds like he thinks the word "tariff" just means "payment". Then he follows that with "[whoever he thinks should make the payment]". Tariff by Apple, Tariff by China, etc. Honestly. I don't know how else you can make it make sense.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 59 points 15 hours ago

he makes it sound like the manufacturers pay the tarriff so his moron supporters think it's a good idea.

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[–] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 197 points 17 hours ago (39 children)

Trump has become schizophrenic again.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 80 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Trump has a lot that seems might be wrong with him, but schizophrenia never really seemed to be on the list. Narcissism, dementia, psycho-/socio-pathy, compulsive lying, and possibly more, but I've never gotten the feeling he displayed the hyperpatternicity I associate with schizophrenia.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Sigh...at least Apple is getting screwed over though. They've been impeding right to repair for a long time, perhaps their karmic debt is finally catching up to them.

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 50 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Who is Tim Cook of Apple? Why does it sound like Trump is talking about Tim Apple?

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 18 points 12 hours ago

Apple spent millions per year in fines for decades just because Steve Jobs didn’t want illuminated fire exit signs polluting the decor of his Apple stores. Their cash reserves exceed $150bn. They won’t do anything they don’t want to do.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 147 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

Even with tariffs it's still not financially viable to Apple to bring manufacturing to the U.S. and if they still decided to it would take 10to 15 years to get going. It ain't gonna happen. Sad oompa-loompa.

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[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

I oppose tariffs, but I'm also somewhat indifferent to the fortunes of Apple.

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