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I have been banned from unpopularopinion for exposing person defending genocide and use of human shields by IDF.

One of the users in unpopularopinion thread was complaining about someone calling him a "fascist"

https://feddit.uk/comment/17531487

In response I did paste a screenshot of his comment claiming IDF are not using human shields, it is Hamas who do that:

https://feddit.uk/comment/17529782

... And the mod of unpopularopinion banned me. I can only guess he is a another genocide apologist.

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk -5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I’m more than happy to explain my actual views to anyone genuinely interested in hearing what I actually think about the subject - rather than what OP wants you to think I believe. I know my reply was intentionally provocative, but I stand by everything I said. You only need to compare the length of OP’s moderation history to mine to see who’s really acting in bad faith here.

Here's my responses to that thread for further context.

I’m not sure “human shield” is the correct term here. That implies using the civilian population to deter your enemy from shooting at you - which has been Hamas’ strategy from the beginning. It would make zero sense for the IDF to do that, since it wouldn’t deter anyone.

EDIT: It may be more accurate to categorize this as using a protected person to perform military duties, which is also prohibited under international humanitarian law - but it’s a different category of war crime.

Human shield is defined under Geneva Conventions as “utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations”

I’m not here to deny the atrocities committed by the IDF - I’m simply questioning the legitimacy of the term in this specific context, while somewhat provocatively trying to highlight the fact that accusing Israel of using human shields is a bit like accusing Ukraine of killing civilians. While both may be technically true, it still paints a somewhat dishonest picture of the actual reality - which, in this case, is that using human shields is Hamas’ number one tactic, and no intellectually honest person can seriously claim otherwise.

when they tie Palestinians to the front of their vehicles, I think we can say they’re using literal human shields.

That would absolutely count as using them as human shields. However, the example used in the article, in my opinion, doesn’t. What they’re doing is still just as immoral and still a war crime, but I don’t think it qualifies as an example of using someone as a human shield.

This has nothing to do with defending the IDF - don’t be ridiculous.

Am I being pedantic? Yeah. But that still doesn’t change the fact that what I’m saying has nothing to do with defending the IDF. I have no dog in that fight. I’m not rooting for either side in this conflict - I’m only rooting for the civilian population suffering on both sides.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The point is that the correct response to an accusation of the usage of human shields is not pedantry. When there's multiple documented cases of this happening, the correct response is not singling out specific examples that in spirit is still the usage of human shields but following some specific definition technically might not count. This serves no purpose other than to derail the conversation into pendantry.

You also made a logic error: according to you, the IDF wouldn't use human shields because Hamas already does. And you reason that this must mean Hamas does not care if civilians die. But the entire point of human shields is that it makes it impossible to do certain military operations because it would kill civilians. The end result with this strategy isn't dead civilians, it hinges on the civilians staying alive (and thus your military is too). Hamas doesn't employ this strategy to get civilians killed, they do it to protect their operations. That exact same motivation could work for the IDF too.

The crimes that the IDF are accused of also in no way compare to what's been happening in Ukraine. By making these comparisons you seem to be trying to minimize what the IDF is doing, which in effect defends the IDF.

If that's not your intention, then stop and reflect carefully on what your comments actually contribute to the conversation. What you name the crime isn't what's important here, it's the crime itself.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 5 points 9 hours ago

Feddit and lemmy.world can't be trusted.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 39 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Hell if being condescending got you banned most of Lemmy would be banned.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 hours ago

Tone censorship is wide spread on all the "major" subs esp on lemmy.world.

Being condescending is not enough, you have to say things that hurt regime right think...

things like dead CEO deserving it, Israel being a genocide ethno state, voting for 3rd party, calling our german regime for being heavy with nazi nepo babies.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I have low key been expecting a ban for months now. My sass game isn't good enough I guess.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

If I were you I’d start working on the basics and once you get those down maybe try some more of the technical sass.

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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 26 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

Lemmy unfortunatly is slowly transforming to reddit again regarding israel. I just interacted with someone blaming all israeli actions on palestinians

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy unfortunatly is slowly transforming to reddit again regarding israel.

I think Lemmy is just doing it in general. Powertripping mods that don't get questioned by admins, stupid rules that punish good faith users but enable bad faith people, mass sockpuppeting...

I'm glad federation enables people to block some obviously bad accounts and instances, but god damn it feels like 50% of all instances are going insane because of a nation they aren't in, that doesn't care about them, is being called out for being a ethnostate.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Lemmy is on of the few places where this discussion is even possible so I guess Israelis and their acolytes figure it out and came here to derail it.

It wild how quickly public sentiment gets sanitized on redidt. Sure they let it run but then it is gone the next day like it didn't happen.

At least here we can document it as it happens.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Unfortunately yes. First there was a feddit.org. Now I can see it spreading.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 13 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

BPR.

You did the right thing by calling out OpinionHaver's hypocrisy. And you did it the right way - exposing why they were called a fascist, in a thread they do Reddit style "I dun unrrurstand" sealioning and "ackshyually" red herrings over and over to defend ethnic cleansing. If you only posted that and walked away, I'd be saying "PTB".

However that is not just what you did. You were consistently aggressive in that thread, and your mod history shows entries like "uncivil", "Derailing", "civility", "Rude/toxic", "history of netiquette violations", "consistent history of toxic behavior" across multiple instances. So even if the target was justified, you're still a problem user, and if a mod lets this sort of hostile user (like you) go rogue in a comm, the comm becomes a shitfest.

Plus you're a single "I can only guess" away from witch hunting = calling the mod "genocide apologist" on weak grounds (removals from a single thread). If you want to accuse someone, do it like you did towards OpinionHaver.

You, sunzu2 and OpinionHaver were derailing the thread. The mod should've either nuked the whole comment chain or left it alone; by selectively deleting you+sunzu2's comments but not OpinionHaver's, the mod is arbitrarily giving them a political voice in an allegedly "no politics" comm, but not you or sunzu2.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 2 hours ago

OpinionHaver was making claims that did not pass basic scanning of his comment history.

I linked up his comment for context. I don't think that's derailing. That's how good discourse happens. In fact, it is my opinion, that these "rules" are generally used to censor content, which is what happened here at least in my opinion.

But sure, if entire comment thread got nuke, it would be harder for me to make these claims.

But week in, week out around here we see these patterns of censorship around topics that are sensitive to the regime but we still pretend as if these "mods" are "modding" and not censoring.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk -2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I don’t see the hypocrisy you’re accusing me of here, but I’m more than happy to clear up any potential confusion. I’ve interacted with you here before, and I know that - unlike OP - you’re capable of debating in good faith. So if you genuinely see any logical errors in my reasoning or behavior that you think are worth criticizing, I’m open to hearing it.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (6 children)

If an admin don't want to be called a genocide apologist he should ban genocide apologies

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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 21 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yikes.

So this person blatantly apologizes warcrimes, then edits to make clear they were just being "specific", which is technically possible but really fucking convenient and shows VERY poor awareness at best.

Then another person complains about lemmy fostering extremist views which exposes themselves as lobotomized because they are falling prey to the "centrism" fallacy.

Then they ban you for trying to expose their bigotted views on that thread? Did i catch that correctly?

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 18 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Idf soldiers literally admit using Palestinians are used as human shield and this guy claim that the term human shield is misleading and compare it to accusing Ukraine is killing civilians

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/24/israel-investigates-use-of-palestinians-as-human-shields-by-its-forces-in-gaza

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 8 points 9 hours ago

I dont know what to say to that. This is turning darker at every corner and in germany it is "controversial" to say a genocide is happening in gaza and israel should be stopped by any means necessary. It is like watching a very bad, very gruesome horror movie.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 4 points 4 hours ago

We can even go back to the second intifada, israel said they will spot but never did

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/israel3/israel0502-06.htm

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yes - and the mod just doubled down on his ridiculous behaviour.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

PTB

Janitors gonna trip

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