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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This is less a response exclusively to this post and more the Tesla discourse broadly

I get we really wanna find people to hate because it makes us feel better about how deeply broken our world is but a lot of folks bought teslas long before we knew Elon would undergo his transformation into a public nazi.

Having bought a product from a person who later turns out to be a huge piece of shit doesn't make you a bad person. And cars are major financial choices that depreciate MASSIVELY the moment they're yours.

I get we all wanna say "Tesla expensive therefore they're rich and they can afford to blow another massive sum of money on another car to replace the tesla", but like... A) lots of Tesla drives are not rich. They're the exact people we have to remind that they are still dirty poors compared to the actual rich people that we need to tax way more. And even for people pretty well off, blowing that kind of money on a purely performative, symbolic replacement of a product they already gave Elon money for is an objectively dumb choice.

We have mocked conservatives for dumb boycotts where they burn their shoes or dump out all their beer from a brand they no linger respect, but we turn around and set the expectation that others with a product we don't like follow exact same logic for what is the second largest category of purchase most people will ever make in their life.

For all the people who will never be able to afford a house because we live in a capitalist hellscape it's the most expensive category of purchase there is. And it depreciates massively the instant it became theirs.

I'm all for mocking cybertruck owners, they bought a shit car, from a shit man, and more importantly they gave him a lot of money knowing how dangerous and horrible he is.

But owning a Tesla doesn't immediately make you a bad person and a fascist. For a lot of people it means you bought the best made electric car on the market because you care about the environment.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

"Best EV on the market"? Not by a long shot, I don't think.

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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

That article is from 2025, many people bought their teslas at a time when the largest well known "competitor" was the Nisan leaf, a car built with less engineering competency/care than a tin can of beans. The batteries have no active cooling system meaning that one of the most expensive components in the car is going to loose a meaningful amount of lifespan every time you use it, degrading an already crap range

Now the market has lots of good options, but there was a hoooot minute where Tesla was way ahead of anyone else and the best option an environmentally conscious shopper who wanted a new car or an electric car could choose (since EVs weren't widely available on the used market until we got enough of them. Whole convo to be had about whether it was better to buy used or a new electric but that's beside the point)

Edit to add context: the first consumer Tesla models came out in 2010

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, it's from 2025, because as you say, the people who bought their Tesla before we all realized just how much of a lunatic Musk is can't really be blamed.

But nowadays that's no longer true, and case in point, there are better or at least similar options in the market.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

That hasn't always been the case. It's hard to imagine now, but 5-10 years ago electric car options were pretty limited especially if you wanted one that had a good range and didn't look ugly as fuck. Not only that, but at the time Elon was just "regular rich guy" bad and not openly fascist. I don't blame anyone for buying a Tesla back then.

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know, i completely get your point and I agree with you. Except that all the tesla drives i've met are assholes on the road, only second to bmw drivers. for example, i've had one of the tesla cunts cut in front of me via undertaking in the middle of heavy traffic this week. I watched their ass the entire way through it. Brainless activities like that make me hate BMW and tesla drivers in particular

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That is a perfectly valid frustration lol. I've not noticed that but I can empathize with noticing patterns in which brand owners drive like dicks.

[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is inaccurate. It is not even close to the best made electric car on the market, it is not even a well made car, period.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Was. It was the best made electric car on the market. For a loooong time. For a long time there were barely any other choices at all, nevermind good choices.

The market has now caught up, and elon musk has announced himself to be a Nazi. Exactly zero good reasons left to buy a Tesla. But it explicitly was the best option by a landslide for quite a while, assuming you could afford one.

As someone who was really excited about electric cars I sat waiting for a long time trying to see when they would have meaningful competition. Its there now, but it sure as hell didn't used to be.

Edit: double checked and the first consumer models of tesla came out in 2010. They're that old. I think people who weren't paying attention to cars and EVs might not have realized just how long there were no meaningful competitors.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a current Tesla Model Y owner I appreciate this post.

I can also state emphatically that I’m “one and done” with Tesla. I’ll never buy another car from them as long as Musk is involved in any way with the company. Even before he started kissing MAGA ass I realized his heavy handed technology decisions with the cars was a turn off. While there are a few unique features I like, I hate having to dig through touch screen menus just to do things like turn on the windshield wipers. The unique features just aren’t enough to overlook all those other poor usability decisions.

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[–] wischi@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Owning a Tesla doesn't make you a bad person that's right, but Elon was a complete idiot at least since his PayPal time.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's entirely fair. Though I don't know that many people research the CEO of the company they're buying a car from, and I imagine if we did we'd not have a huge number of options left 😅

[–] wischi@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's right and I don't blame anyone who bought a Tesla or anything really (except that you have to be out of your mind to buy a car without knobs 🤣 for that price) and people still buy from Amazon and Nestle and I don't blame them either. That's actually something that politics would have to solve, but that's an entirely different story.

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[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People supporting oil companies do not have the moral high ground here just because the fascist, murderous billionaires they support financially have the good sense to not do Nazi salutes on a stage. They're still responsible for incredible amounts of suffering and death, ongoing.

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Imagine if we all broadly put a fraction of a fraction of the effort we put into performative boycotts and infighting into actually getting involved in our local communities, organizing, fundraising and getting to know our local representatives.

You know, the things that have allowed capitalism to have unfettered access to our highest offices. The things that get ZERO media coverage and less hype, even broadly made fun of as lame or pathetic. If we cared at all about our local community and who represents us closest, we would have at least slowed down this march of endless growth that has made each of us into a commodity who thinks we're winning when we talk about brands and boycotts.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The ‘please don’t spray paint my car’ label.

Not saying I don’t turn my nose up at regular Teslas, but it’s the Cyberfuck owners that have my real contempt. You’re choosing to continue driving that thing around.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

Those and the facelifted model y's

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] onyxjet@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago

If this is a case of buying it before he was clearly a moron and calling people a pedo for saving people then maybe fair enough. Anything after that though and you made your choice

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's the purchase date that matters. The newer it is, the less of an excuse they have for having bought it.

To be clear, if they'd really been paying attention they could've known Musk was a piece of shit way back even before the Model S came out. (Early warning signs included, for example, Tesla's open hostility towards its customers' property rights, including right to repair.) But normies would not have been paying attention to that.

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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I took a similar pic recently!

[–] onyxjet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably would blur the license plate just to be courteous.

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[–] yamper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

a few $1 stickers should cancel out my $40k endorsement of elon musk

[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Is it in any way possible that A: it was purchased used from a private seller, and/or 2: it was purchased prior to, whichever event you personally consider the start of his departure from reality. It's easy to forget now, considering [gestures vaguely at a cloud of toxic fumes emanating from the smoldering husk of a once democratic nation], but there was a time not so very long ago when Musk was considered a liberal and eco-friendly darling.

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Do I still have eggs in this scenario?

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