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[–] termaxima@programming.dev 106 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

“To protect children” is a stupid reason, but banning smoking anywhere outside of your own home, or spaces expressly dedicated to it, on the other hand, is how it should always have been.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There is an absolute metric shitload of proven scientific evidence that smoke inhalation causes lasting damage to developing lungs and hearts. Do you deny this scientific evidence?

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[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 32 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I'm from the UK where it's at least banned indoors.

Visiting European pubs/bars where people still smoke is nuts and my clothes always stink after

[–] Renohren@lemmy.today 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The same ban exists in France and most other EU countries. And the fines/administrative closures are quite stringent.

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[–] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Replace “children” with “non-consenting people” and you’re getting close. Children are the most non-consenting people in society and deserve special protection accordingly.

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

I'd argue the less prevalent smoking is in public the less likely children will turn to smoking in the future. makes sense to me

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[–] Susurrus@lemm.ee 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You could say smoking is one of the most human activities ever. Does nothing but actively harm and potentially kill everything around you. Just what we're the best at.

But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

Yeah prohibition is famous for working very well and not have any side effect.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

Some European countries, including mine, has decided to raise the smoking age by 1 every year, essentially banning the next generation from smoking. Not really rapid or speeding up, but future is looking good

There was a slight problem where some people were allowed to smoke for portion of the year after birthday and before the age increase, for every year

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[–] SW42@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago (45 children)
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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I thought everyone in France smoked, including the kids, no?

I gave mine nicotine patch from age 5.

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[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 6 days ago
[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

I like these laws but also I want to smoke in some places. I'd love a return of places like cigar lounges and whisky bars

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago

LOL like here in Montreal I see people smoking right next to the "No smoking within 3 meters" or whatever sign.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I live in a country with a strict outdoor smoking ban and I love it.

There are dedicated smoking areas for people to smoke outdoors, but they are really small and cramped with smokers.

It’s actually really nice, you never see or smell people smoking unless you wonder too close to the designated smoking areas which are often really out of the way.

The streets are not really clean here, but at least it’s not cigarette butts. Even things like vapes need to be smoked in a designated area, but sometimes people do it on the street anyway.

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[–] PattyP@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

This comment section is a disaster, just as bad as reddit. Comments of no substance on the side of popular opinion get upvotes, and waves of downvotes come for anyone who disagrees even a little, and even if they do it in a reasonable way.

I’m mildly asthmatic so I don’t smoke, vape, etc. I have tried a few times and it is simply too much for my lungs to cope with. I still think banning people from smoking in public parks or on beaches is a bit much, and not doing the same with vaping seems like a strange double standard. I had a college roommate who both vaped and smoked, and the vaping bothered me more. I still put up with it.

Hopefully enforcement is reasonable - respectful smokers who deliberately try to keep their distance should be allowed to enjoy themselves, but I understand prosecuting(?) those who show no care and smoke right next to nonsmokers.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The issue with smoking is the second hand smoke. It causes cancer, among many other health issues. Vape on the other hand doesn’t really have this same concern.

They aren’t banning smoking because of nicotine, they are banning it because it causes cancer.

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

Good i hope more countries adopt this. Türkiye is terrible for this, lovely country and people but there are smokers almost everywhere.

[–] ihatefascist@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

To protect children, meanwhile the soil is filled with cancer-inducing products pumped away illegally by big chemistry plants. In belgium and netherlands we can barely eat our own produce thanks to this. When are we gonna ban them??

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

GOOD point. They shouldn't ban cigarettes until everything else bad is also banned.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

yeah also ban those... how does all that affect this exactly?

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Ban children!?

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Europeans should get a new hobby, smoking is gross and you smell like burnt shit

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 13 points 5 days ago

Dang, France is really about to take away the one thing that the USA has always been ahead of them on.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Banning children seems like it would be more effective.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I love how everyone supporting this just assumes you'll still be able to smoke at your own home when it doesn't saying anything of the sort. It explicitly states 'where children COULD be present'. This is literally everywhere short of some BDSM dungeon. This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

[–] Kiliyukuxima@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Which actually sounds fair. Kids do not choose to be born and do not need to inhale smoke because parents are addicted to smoking

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 days ago

This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

Hell I'd start smoking again.

[–] Child_of_the_bukkake@lemmy.cafe 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Yeah don't smoke near your kids. It's not that hard.

They're also making the population choose between drinking and driving.

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