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Opposition to the butchery in Gaza (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world

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[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 70 points 6 days ago (7 children)

You shouldn't blame Zionism on a mental illness. Zionism is a choice to be awful.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Faith isn’t the reason, it’s the excuse

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I didn't say it was faith either. It's not mental illness or faith.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

To be fair the OP didn’t call it mental illness either. They said something was wrong with them as a person.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It is a conscious decision to commit genocide, using Judaism as a cover to protect them from criticism. Intentionally bombing children does mean something is wrong with you IMO

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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I think all fascism is a mental illness.

Luckily, there is a treatment, as demonstrated by one of its most famous sufferers. It can even be self administered!

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[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are bad/lacking morals a mental illness? Seriously, at what point do we draw the line? It's a curious topic.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

No, they're not. When psychologists become the arbiters of correct morality and pathologise disagreement, society is fucked.

You're thinking of what happens when good people make the rules. But what if people like Freud were in charge of calling certain moral values illnesses? We already have enough problems with things like homosexuality being called a mental illness. What if Trump Derangement Syndrome were in the DSM?

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I dont oppose donald trump because im a democrat or a liberal.

I oppose donald trump because im not a fucking psychopath.

Opposing donald trump is so obvious, so common sense, such a bare-minimum, fundamental-level, being a human 101 position that if it isn't immediately self-evident to you after learning the basic facts, your problem is, much, much deeper than whatever ideology or bias or prejudice you might happen to have. There's something wrong with you as a person.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 days ago

Even most of the conservative politicians in the US seemed to take this approach, until he started winning (read also: liberal politicians failed to counter his right-wing populism).

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[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but I'm also a commie lol.

[+] Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (53 children)

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[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 days ago

Some leftists and others fall back on the old stereotype of powerhungry Reds who pursue power for powers sake without regard for actual social goals. If true, one wonders why, in country after country, these Reds side with the poor and powerless often at great risk and sacrifice to themselves, rather than reaping the rewards that come with serving the well-placed.

For decades, many left-leaning writers and speakers in the United States have felt obliged to establish their credibility by indulging in anticommunist and anti-Soviet genuflection, seemingly unable to give a talk or write an article or book review on whatever political subject without injecting some anti-Red sideswipe. The intent was, and still is, to distance themselves from the Marxist-Leninist Left.

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Purging the Left of communists became a longstanding practice, having injurious effects on various progressive causes. For instance, in 1949 some twelve unions were ousted from the CIO because they had Reds in their leadership. The purge reduced CIO membership by some 1.7 million and seriously weakened its recruitment drives and political clout. In the late 1940s, to avoid being “smeared” as Reds, Americans for Democratic Action (ADA), a supposedly progressive group, became one of the most vocally anticommunist organizations.

The strategy did not work. ADA and others on the Left were still attacked for being communist or soft on communism by those on the Right. Then and now, many on the Left have failed to realize that those who fight for social change on behalf of the less-privileged ele¬ ments of society will be Red-baited by conservative elites whether they are communists or not. For ruling interests, it makes little dif¬ ference whether their wealth and power is challenged by “communist subversives” or “loyal American liberals.” All are lumped together as more or less equally abhorrent.

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Sorely lacking within the U.S. Left is any rational evaluation of the Soviet Union, a nation that endured a protracted civil war and a multinational foreign invasion in the very first years of its existence, and that two decades later threw back and destroyed the Nazi beast at enormous cost to itself. In the three decades after the Bolshevik revolution, the Soviets made industrial advances equal to what capitalism took a century to accomplish — while feeding and schooling their children rather than working them fourteen hours a day as capitalist industrialists did and still do in many parts of the world. And the Soviet Union, along with Bulgaria, the German Democratic Republic, and Cuba, provided vital assistance to national liberation movements in countries around the world, including Nelson Mandelas African National Congress in South Africa.

Parenti "Blackshirts and Reds"

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I mean.... I've been saying similar stuff for a while. I'm not on anyone's side specifically. I live far enough away to not be affected by the situation and for my opinion to have no affect on the situation. Simply put: it's not useful for me to have an opinion, so I don't have one.

HOWEVER: I always have and always will oppose the unnecessary death and cruelty happening. Doesn't matter where, or who, or when... If some group is killing another group, I don't like that.

The only good reason to use violence on a global stage is to stop violence; aka self defense. Like what's happening to the Ukraine, as a simple example. The Ukraine is well within their right to defend themselves and their land from a foreign invader. I am opposed to the Russian army marching across international borders and seizing land by killing whomever tries to stop them and/or whomever is there. Not cool. I dislike Russia's actions there. I don't dislike Russia's or Russians, I don't have a problem with any individual person. I have a problem with the decision that was made at the highest levels of government to invade.

Same thing here. I could not care less which side is comprised of what people's of what culture or religion.... I just don't like that one group is invading/bombing/killing the other. I have no animosity towards those defending themselves, trying to not get killed...

I don't know why everyone needs to make every opinion on the matter a question of race, religion, or whatever. I don't care, just stop murdering eachother.

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[–] VAVHV@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Isn't being against war and genocide the same as anti-imperialism? I hate how saying "War is bad" has become so controversial and extremist.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

I think there will be consequences for Israel's crimes, just not today.

Israel is destroying its reputation and its future with its current actions. Yet no power in the world can stop them today, because they have waay too many weapons.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I think there will be consequences for innocent Jews who have nothing to do with the Israeli genocide. This sort of behavior gives ammo and a perception of legitimacy to antisemites. Israel is making things harder for Jews worldwide for years to come.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

let's discuss why people are supporting governments, politicians and companies backing the genocide

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[–] vorb0te@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I only know her from claiming there will be no Russian invasion while it already had begun. Later, she is peddling Russian propaganda. Moron.

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Thanks for letting me know. I've edited out her details so only the message is visible.

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

According to a recent pen state uni poll, 80% of Israeli society support the forced removal of Palestinians from Gaza. If we follow the reasoning in this post, the Israeli society is kinda locco ◑﹏◐

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago

Either that, or the psychological abuse techniques that militaries do to turn normal people into obedient soldiers are effective. Israel has compulsory military service, so nearly all of the population of the country went through it. That's how they get that 80% support.

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