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[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 4 points 26 minutes ago

If it wasn't so sad it'd be hilarious that all these states are banning imaginary ways to control the weather while at the same time gutting the EPA and air population controls, so real ways to influence the weather.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 26 minutes ago

Planes issue horrible chemicals that cause all kinds of issues. Carbon dioxide, nitrogen oxides, etc.

My understanding is that these bills would make that illegal. That's good.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

Is this the new South Park season?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 5 hours ago

Stop fucking flying so much then. You could always put those planes on the ground, on tracks. Imagine that.

[–] TinyLittlePuni@lemmy.world 35 points 8 hours ago

Do that many people not realise what condensation is?

[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 63 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Without even looking, lemme guess on which states.

Are they the shit holes with low education rates and high rates of rampant stupidity who suckle the teat of all the blue states paying for them but then complain about it?

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago

IDK which states either. But I'd venture a guess, that sorting states by percentage of MAGA voters, would have the 8 states in the top 10.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Also states with very shallow gene pool...

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago

shallow gene pool.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

or even control the weather for nefarious motives.

Actually, contrails do have a slight climate impact.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Don't they slightly increase rain and slightly decrease UV? The particulate in the exhaust acts as nucleation sites for water droplets and crystals.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

They're referring to the fact that dihydrogen monoxide is a GHG

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 11 hours ago

Bigfoot is not allowed at Thanksgiving. Him and frankenstein's monster are still beefing.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

As if something being real or not has ever mattered with regards to republicans trying to generate panic over a thing

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 82 points 15 hours ago (15 children)

The "chemtrail" conspiracy is particularly stupid. Like, you've got to put effort into your own duncefuckery to make the moronic leaps necessary.

"Jetliners are spraying mind control juice"

Uh huh, so, where on the jetliner is it stored? The belly is full of avionics and baggage compartment, the passenger compartment is full of seats, the wings are full of fuel, the tail has maybe a little void space, but enough to crop dust entire time zones? Can you show me any evidence of a jet aircraft equipped with such a dispersion system?

Oh they're flying special flights just for this? Okay, can you show me such a flight that obviously isn't what it says it is? There hasn't been a single air crew, maintenance tech, parts supplier, chemical plant janitor, etc. come forward about any of this?

Oh it's mixed straight into the fuel! Okay, so the Vote For Obama juice still works after spending hours to days dissolved in kerosene and PRIST, and then burned in a jet engine. Again, nobody anywhere in the fuel supply infrastructure has said anything about this. There hasn't been a single Youtube video or Reddit thread about "what are my bosses pumping into the jet fuel?"

I guess they've also paid off all the chemical labs that analyze fuel, oil and other fluid samples. Because that's a thing, aircraft mechanics take samples of engine oil and such and send them to labs for gas chromatography. It's kinda cool, they'll send you a report that says "We're seeing elevated levels of tin and copper consistent with accelerated wear of the intake valve bushings." Nobody has gotten a report back from a lab like that talking about exotic molecules ?

Why would you bother using jet airliners for this that fly extremely high? Some of the particles dispersed would outright NEVER land, some of them will drift hundreds if not thousands of miles before coming to rest in the ocean or a desert. Why not mix the Vote For Obama juice into diesel fuel to be burned by semi-trucks, down near the ground usually where you can find people? Or into automotive gasoline? Surely you could use much less of the chemical that way because it's being burned so close to people.

Maybe that's why Big They are so fucking keen to keep Republicans driving big gas guzzling micropenis trucks around? So that Republican areas get basted with Vote For Obama juice.

Oh, also: There's tetraethyl lead in aviation gasoline. Added as an octane booster and anti-knock additive, it's a POTENT neurotoxin that makes people stupid and asocial. The fuel pumps have a big sign on them saying as much. It shows up in those chromatography tests of engine oil...and in fact you can see it. A bucket of used aviation piston engine oil has a dull metallic sheen on the surface from the lead that didn't make it out of the engine. It's not burned in the quantities that we burn jet fuel, but piston-powered planes do fly lower and closer to civilization in most cases.

But you can't care about any of that, you've got third generation fetal alcohol syndrome so you're just scared of the lines in the sky.

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

tetraethyl lead - if used - is only for piston aircraft, not large commercial jets

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Well...

There is this thing where maybe we could use jetliners to emit a little bit of sulfuric oxides, through their fuel.

The result of that would be a moderate amount of that in the upper atmosphere, which will reflect away some of the solar radiation, like that pollution did back in the 80s and 90s, lowering the global temperatures slightly, and with that the impact of the CO2 crisis that were in.

It'll produce acid rains but that is the trade off they we might have to make.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago

Truck exhaust blows away. They can't see it anymore. Contrails linger for a while. They can see that.

They can see planes. They can't see inside planes. Therefore, they can imagine anything they want inside because they can't verify it themselves.

The things they can't see anymore are gone. The things they can't see into contain the worst possible scenario.

And that litter box in schools things for the kid identifying as a cat? The story is ALWAYS about someone else's schools. They can picture a different school. They can imagine the worst scenario in there.

This whole political ideology is an exercise in failed object permanence.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

Serious congratulations on typing an actual response to brain damaging shit like this. I couldn't even get past a few sentences of this dipshit theory without just completely shutting down and moving on

"Jetliners are spraying mind control juice"

Not all jetliners. Just some.

Uh huh, so, where on the jetliner is it stored?

In tanks.

Can you show me any evidence of a jet aircraft equipped with such a dispersion system?

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-july-25-2017-1.4219055/can-geoengineering-technology-combat-extreme-weather-1.4219301

Why would you bother using jet airliners for this that fly extremely high?

SAI could be achieved using existing aircraft injecting aerosols at an altitude of 8 miles high but at this lower altitude three times more aerosol would be needed

Oh it's mixed straight into the fuel!

No.

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[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 154 points 17 hours ago (10 children)

Let me get this straight. They are going to outlaw... water condensation. They are literally the grandpa from The Simpsons yelling at the clouds. Because chemtrails are basically just clouds. It's just water vapor from the airplane engines condensing in cold atmosphere at high altitudes. Because it's cold up there. They know it's cold up there, right? Right? Imagine being a grown fucking adult and not knowing how this shit works. Go out in the winter and breathe with open mouth. You're now breathing out chemtrails. you fucking dumbasses.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 50 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Scientists have shown that those who come in contact with dihydrogen monoxide have a 100% fatality rate. Every single person that has come in contact with it dies.

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

It's like 99.8% fatality ATM.

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[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

No no, you see, chemtrails look and behave exactly like contrails. They're entirely, completely, 100% indistinguishable from contrails. So now that theyve banned them, you can be sure that all those trails you see in the sky are pure contrails and you've got your local Republican politician to thank for it!

Its definitely not just that they want an easy win without actually having to do anything, do not look at the man behind the curtain!

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

At least eight states, including Florida and Tennessee, have now introduced ... legislation to prohibit “geo-engineering” or “weather modification”

So, nothing to do with chemtrails and specifically addresses geo-engineering and weather modification. Cloud seeding is a thing and dispersing particulates to reflect sunlight has also been much discussed. These states simply don't want it happening in their state.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 22 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

"Fesi testified on the Senate floor April 28 during debate over his bill that he believes “certain agencies within the federal government are doing cloud seeding and geoengineering.” In an interview Friday, the senator was asked what evidence he had to support his claims.

“Look up in our sky,” Fesi answered.

In an interview, Fesi later said he sees “just tons and tons of cloud seeding” above his backyard and described it as “all of the stripes across the skies.”

https://lailluminator.com/2025/05/19/weather-modification-bills/

These bills are fueled by conspiracy theories and idiocy.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There’s companies openly doing this already. One idiot not being able to cite it doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Stop gaslighting people.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/12/24/1066041/a-startup-says-its-begun-releasing-particles-into-the-atmosphere-in-an-effort-to-tweak-the-climate/amp/

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The point was not about if it was happening or not. It's about how these examples are used as fodder to keep the conspiracies flowing about chemtrails.

If you mix just the right amount of conspiracy with a little bit of fact, you get to keep all the votes from the crazies. It's super easy to use big words like "geoengineering" and twist them to imply that hormones are mixed with jet fuel.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The point was not about if it was happening or not.

The title of the article literally claims it’s not happening, which is false.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The title of the article is referring to "chemtrails" as false. (You are blocked now too. So no point in responding.)

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

The invocation of chemtrails was specifically on the part of the author of the article. If you actually read the details, the laws are restricting geoengineering.

And it’s worth commenting so your ignorance doesn’t stand for anyone else reading.

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[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 41 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, I thought it was the government that was putting the chemicals in the trails in the first place, and now their making their own actions illegal?

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 30 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well, that's the federal government and these are state governments. Of course not THIS federal government, they mean the other federal government, the shadow government. You know the one that disobeys laws, kills millions of people for financial gain, covers up the pedofilia and drug problems of their membership, ignores the Constitution, and is trying to change the world for their own benefit? Well not that one, the other one that tries to keeps everything functioning, root out corruption, and write rules to try and protect people. THAT shadow government. It's evil dontchaknow and these new laws will definitely show them that the states won't stand for it any more!

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