Except for the part where Trump leaked the planned attack to get street credit
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/12/politics/trump-israel-iran-strike
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The baddies can’t even keep their story straight. How shocking.
Only villains trust other villains to keep their word
Israel: No, US, you don't understand. We're dragging you into everything we do and you're going to help us or we fund your primary opponent that will. We can't do any of the shit we do alone, we need you to do it.
Israel really is the little brother that you're constantly bailing out because they're always in trouble.
more like a rabid pitbull that maul kids to death at every given chance
At least problem animals are captured by animal control and handled
There is no leash or any enforcement in this scenario
They didn’t have nukes in 1996 when Netenyahu started this shit, and they still don’t today.
Israel is hell bent on destroying its neighbors, and as always America is hell bent on being its little removed and providing arms and cover the whole way. What a disgrace.
Especially, fuck trump for another disastrous lie claiming he didn’t want more wars. We knew it was bullshit, and it only took him 5 months to prove it.
Uk also into it.
I'd wager EU
Definitely not all of the EU. Our Danish prime minister has officially denounced the way Israel has been conducting the war in Gaza for instance, and the majority of our population thinks that they are stepping way out of bounds.
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We're the baddies this time
This time lol
I think the commenters here fail to understand the the USG and quite a bit of the population approve of what's going on right now.
Not surprised, who else would supply intelligence and targeting data from satellites. When this shit escalates, I expect every fucking MAGAt to join the US Army as an 11 Bravo, grunt infantry. Fucking idiots!
All the gEnOsiDe JoE people need to understand this is one of the things Biden (and, presumably Harris) were keeping from happening by not completely shutting down all interactions with Israel's Likud. Now that enough people didn't stop trump, we're going to get in some deep shit.
If I was some kinda conspiracy person I'd say that's because as much kompromat as Putin has on ya boi there's way, way more damning stuff in Epstein's files. But obviously that couldn't be because
Is that how it worked? I seem to remember Iran having to be the adult in the room last year and ending the back-and-forth rocket attacks.
Appeasement does not work. Didn't in the '30s, and will not now. The Likud and other war-hawk fascist sorts will continue to push and consolidate power if their platform shows results (we are untouchable). Maybe Biden's Chamberlain strategy delayed war, but it did not and cannot prevent it so long as it insulates Israel from the consequences of its actions.
Well, unless you’re in a very specific office the CIA you probably don’t know what was said or done either.
There are several ways to prevent war. I am quite sure the trump administration does not know, or care, what they are. We may as well be a nation lead by The Real Housewives. And I’m sure that would be an improvement.
There was nothing any president the United States could currently do to stop the fascism in israel. Not only that. It literally wasn't even on the ballot. However outright fascism at home was.
Between standard fascit Republican vote suppression, disenfranchisement, and one sided myopic amplification of propaganda surrounding current events in israel. Many people who were against Republicans and against the genocide in Israel. We're literally convinced to vote for the fascist who would make it worse. Because of all the propaganda.
It's a damn shame that we weren't in a place where the genocide in Palestine was on the ballot. That absolutely should have been one of the issues we could differentiate on. It just never was. And all the short-sighted focused attacks on Biden and harris. Only brought the fascism and genocide home.
Biden wasn't perfect, he wasn't even adequate, but he was somehow still better. And I wish we had him right now or Harris. But all these fools couldn't stop from being manipulated into making unachievable perfection the enemy of something that we could have actually had.
I wouldn't give that administration that much credit. When it came out that they were saying and doing utterly nothing about Gaza when they were telling the press about all the "discussions and negotiations" they were having, you knew there was no credible restraint on Israel.
Because the problem with Israel is our congress. They are owned by them. Even if Biden has come out strongly against israel. The Congress would just override him. Biden was never a good politician. But on top of that he had nothing but shit options available to him. I still think he should have stood up and forced Congress to go against him. But current events in Israel were never going to be stopped by a presidential election.
I don't buy that, the executive is entirely in control of that relationship by law, even real, non-Trumpian law. He could veto anything congress wanted to put up against him if he had truly wanted to do anything. Hell, they said they were doing things that they never even tried to do, let alone going against Congress with tougher measures like cutting off arms shipments. They didn't actually do the slightest amount of pushback except for announcing false "negotiations".
If that Congress was in thrall to Israel, the executive was bought and paid for.
I suggest you read up on what a veto proof majority is. Literally they could stop and override his veto on just about anything regarding israel. And best of all it doesn't care if you buy it or not. It simply exists. All we can do is acknowledge it and take it into account.
The only reason Trump is able to do any of the things he's currently doing. Is because he has the support of far too much of the Judiciary and the majority of the legislature.
Deny all you like. While I sympathize with a lot of you, and think you had good intentions. You were played like fools and that is just a simple fact. Something that we should remember and try to do better about in the future. And the first step on that path is to acknowledge you are manipulated.
We have our work cut out for us. We have a whole legislature and Judiciary to replace before replacing the president means anything.
Just to be clear, I am not a Trump voter, I'm a third party watching the carnage from the outside.
Yes, they could have gotten a supermajority together and overrode the veto, but that would have been highly unlikely, given how often that's ever occurred. And by not buying it, I'm saying that they could have done what they said they did and more, but simply didn't regardless of what might have happened in Congress. They didn't even do the small amount they said they were doing that didn't get called out by any large amount of representatives.
It's occurred several times in my life time. And if any issue would have seen another. It would be Israel. Take it from someone who has lived here 50 years and isn't a third party.
I'm not here to defend biden. He absolutely could and should have done more. I'm just here to call out the people attacking the Democrats for things that were largely out of their control in that presidential election. Only succeeding at helping to get the actual fascist into office. Not that Democrats didn't contribute to that plenty on their own as well.
Just to be clear, I am not a Trump voter, I'm a third party watching the carnage from the outside.
Well feel free to help whenever then
When you get your underground railroad rolling to get the handmaids out, I'll be here. Pretty hard to get excited about helping when your own countrymen can't be arsed to do anything except slacktivise on Farcebook.
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Like vote for CIA Democrats? Please.
I live in a red state. I'll vote for anyone that stands a chance of keeping a Republican out of office. That's just basic harm reduction. And yes that would theoretically include even a CIA democrat. But the joke's on you. Republicans largely run unopposed here.
Then you can safely vote third.
Unopposed. There are no thirds. I will take one less Republican in office over virtue signaling any day anyhow.
Write in is a thing
I would get more accomplished if I went to our fascist Governor's residence and took a shit on his doorstep.
That's literally privileged blue state leftist talk. Is writing in Joseph Dejacque going to return the rights my SO, my mother, my sister, and my nieces all lost? Is writing someone in going to flip the state legislature to actually get it to implement the ballot initiatives citizens here pass? Is it anything but the definition of empty virtue signaling? It's like starving, seeing a half eaten hamburger in the trash. Going, I could eat it to relieve my hunger. But no, I will let the fresh imaginary hotdog sustain me.
Don't get me wrong, under the right circumstances write-ins can get someone like Mukowski elected. But that's the exception not the rule, and requires someone write-in worthy running to boot. As an anarchist I'd like to see nearly all of them run from office however. Till then I'll fight the fascists with any effective means at hand. Though it must be nice to be able to be choosy. Unfortunately it rarely coincides with self awareness.
You already said unopposed. This sounds like plant talk.
Whatever you need to tell yourself comrade. You are the one that screeched CIA Democrat and then started spouting off useless Solutions.
You may want to get that psychosis checked 🌱
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Israel bombed Lebanon and Iran onder Biden what the hell are you on about.
Also Genocide Joe spell it correctly.
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Don't complain about certain war criminals because there are worse war criminals? What an amazing logic
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