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[–] briever@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Israel has nukes - what about that Non-proliferation treaty Germany?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Albert Einstein was 100% correct. I am ashamed of the politicians in Germany who fail to learn the lessons from WWII.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)

France, Germany, the US, and UK are all issuing official statements in full support of Israel's attack, and the US is moving some naval vessels to the ME to defend its little brother. Only China and Russia are going to oppose them on the UN security council.

How's it going "enlightened democracies"?

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

None of them want Iran to have nuclear weapons. They are probably fine with Israel doing the dirty work.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Countries allowed to have nuclear weapons (or energy) check:

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Countries allowed to have nukes:

  • countries that already have them
  • countries that make them before someone stops them

Don't forget China, India, and Pakistan all have nukes.

It's like working on a nintedo fan game, only announce it once you're done.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"If we support Israel with their very own holocaust we'll be even for what we did right?"

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

Two Holocausts don't make a right.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Fuck Germany for this and fuck Israel.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Iran is illegally building a nuclear weapon for illegal self defense and Israel is doing a Jack Bauer to stop them.

Obviously, Germany - a country with a long and storied history of liberal democratic values and anti-war principles - will come down on the right side of this conflict. There's no way they'd just align with a Middle Eastern Imperialist power looking to dominate and ethically cleanse a region of its native people.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Worse hypocrisy than "Russia has no right to defend itself". Prior to US led nazi coup in 2014, Russia and Ukraine had close economic/political ties, even as supposed Russian stooge President was exploring in good faith EU membership. Coup was designed to sabotage that relationship, with direct NATO/nazi threats to Russia.

Israel's relationship with neighbours and Iran has never been defensive. Europe's rulers always siding with US empire, even as US attacks it, is deeply traitorous. JCPOA process, appears to be the same EU deception as Minsk accords or 2 state solution Norway/Camp David BS. Germany, specifically has no chill between nazi and zionazi extremes.

[–] stray@pawb.social 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In 2023, Germany said: “Confronted with an openly aggressive Russia, the importance of nuclear deterrence has increased for many states, including for [Germany].

Germany is one of five NATO members to host US nuclear weapons on its territory as part of a nuclear-sharing agreement. The German air force is assigned approximately 15 B61 nuclear bombs, which are deployed at the Büchel air base.

In 2016, Germany voted against the UN General Assembly resolution that established the formal mandate for states to commence negotiations on “a legally binding instrument to prohibit nuclear weapons, leading towards their total elimination”.

https://www.icanw.org/germany

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Germany: Nuclear weapons are good actually

Also Germany: Ban nuclear power return to burning coal

Guess they don't like nuclear if it doesn't involve killing people

[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] gaael@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

Didn't click on the link but based on the last 8 years, anything Macron says has a strong probability of being dogshit made to sound plausible and appealing to the end user.
We had chatgpt as president before chatgpt was the hype.
So whatever he wrote on the nazi social network, take it with a huge pinch of salt.

[–] stray@pawb.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

France being famous for having disposed of all 290 of its own nuclear weapons, of course.

[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To be fair Iran would use their nuke on Israel and everyone knows it.

[–] stray@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago

Would they, though? Knowing that the entire rest of the world would be down their throats in an instant? Knowing Israel would immediately nuke them back?

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

It's amazing how France and Germany seem to have the same view after US has been pushing the nuclear path. Feels like some play book is being acted out.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Always Sunny memes are perfect for modern international politics.

And I guess we're maybe all going to die because we keep letting idiots lead our countries.

I would get politically active to try to help, but that feels like Charlie work.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 days ago

I have a bucket of blood. Do you think I took too much?

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

Implying they ever had the plot to begin with

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 2 days ago

German regime and their Nazi Nepo baby owners are pathetic

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