I'm not cheering for either of them and wish they both get what they deserve.
this post was submitted on 14 Jun 2025
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Is it possible they are both just very very bad?
They are. And I fear the Iranians are just going to circle the wagons and it will strengthen the evil Islamic pedophile regime. The Israelis will do the same.
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It's not so much cheering on Iran, but not giving a shit about Israel. Like, Israel just attacked Iran, they reap what they sow.
Eh, one side is committing genocide, has been ethnically cleansing Palestinian, continually attacking neighboring countries, and effectively murdering gay people as well (do you think the 2000 pound bombs make an exception for gay people?) and the other side is a theocracy with all the flaws that come with that. When it comes down to it, Israel is far, far worse than Iran. You can support parties you're critical of.
I think the more morally sound position is to not support either of them (Zionists and Islamists).
I disagree, for three reasons. The first is effectively "inaction in the face of an oppressive status quo is complicity", and that's the weakest of the three, I'll be the first to admit. The second is that any nation has a right to defend itself when attacked. And that is very much what's going on here.
The third, for me, is the main reason, and it's an analogy. Imagine a situation with three people, a child rapist, a wife beater, and a child. The rapist is on the verge of raping the child, and the wife beater asks you to give him your gun to stop it (just imagine you're unable to fire it yourself for some reason). In this scenario, I would give the gun to the wife beater. I would be supporting a bad guy (he beats his wife), but I would do it 11 times out of 10.
For clarity, Israel is the child rapist, Iran the wife beater. And yes, the relative magnitude of immorality here corresponds with that between Israel and Iran.
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Me when a guy in a white supremacist administration makes a nazi salute and the ADL goes "no, it wasn't"
Me when an interest group which for decades has cried out against genocide and targeted ethno-religious persecution actively and deliberately proclaims it is going to eliminate an entire ethno-religious group from a large area of land
Me when people are defending that
Nobody is out there crowing about the superiority of Iran. Or how Iran is sooooooo great.
It's just schadenfreude. It's a quadruple heroin overdose of schadenfreude directly in our veins. We've screamed and cried and protested and called reps and done everything we could for 2 years while watching a genocide live on TV. For 2 years.
It's very cathartic to see that evil genocidal pedophile colony get its shit rocked. I cheered watching a hypersonic missile hit the Israeli Pentagon and I'll keep cheering.
Israel hit first. They called it preemptive but it was premeditated. Big difference. They punched above their weight now the hit dog is hollering. The very moment Israel sues for peace and comes to the table with concessions I'll support the violence coming to a negotiated end. And not a moment before. Until then. Pound them into fucking sand. Twist the goddamn knife.
Chump can get involved if he wants but I won't go die for Israel. Not for all the money held by the Forbes 500. If they call a draft I'll dodge it.
Iran has the right to defend itself.
evil genocidal pedophile colony
I'm unfamiliar with what would make Israel a particularly pedophilic country. Can you explain that bit?
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Does it matter if it's Iran? They are still the victims here. Israel is downright genocidal, and won't stop in Iran!
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“Lesser-evilism for me but not for thee”
People are cheering on Iran out of pure spite, not out of genuine support for Iran.
The American people are tired of our government spending out tax dollars to support a genocide and then gaslighting us about it when we call them out. They are also persecuting dissenters on it. This has happened under both Biden and Trump, though Trump has leaned more on the persecution. We are fucking sick of it.
There is satisfaction in seeing someone stand up to genocidal Israel, even if the party doing so is despicable in their own right. I think people would greatly prefer getting behind a western democracy taking a stand, but we're at a point where people will take what they can get. Especially with it being clear that the aforementioned western democracies aren't going to do shit against genocidal Israel.
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