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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago) (2 children)

This is just not accurate.

Here's an example proving it incorrect:

https://youtu.be/aeFltEjzR2Y?t=1212

That's just a unit. Not a ceremonial one.

[–] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 4 points 24 minutes ago

I mean the honest truth is the military hates Trump just like the rest of us

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

It's not hard to march

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

"Defend our nation" by starting wars to keep rich people rich?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)
[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

no sometimes they start wars to get rich people richer

but for reals its not the soldiers starting wars its the higher ups and the people who make weapons who start wars

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

This is a false dichotomy, as though you can either be productive or learn to march. Obviously you could do both.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, you can NOT learn to march like they do in North Korea or China and have any time left in your day to do an actual job or even train to fight. That crap takes time.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today -1 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Um... That is nothing like the pageantry they put on on North Korea and China.

[–] Sirius006@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

This is a false dichotomy, but also, maybe if all the others have been doing it for millennia there is a reason. For instance, having large groups that walk fast while not taking too much space, but also many other things : Marching into battle, study

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Broadly speaking, yeah. We send every member of the US Army through "Basic Training" even though 95% of them will never actually fire a gun or climb over a fence or jog ten miles in the rain for the rest of their careers.

Parade March is a thing we don't bother to drill into units (except specifically tasked "Parade Units" that exist to do little circus acts for the high command's amusement). But we could do it instead of the GI Joe training for the private class janitorial staff if we felt like it.

The bigger picture is that the US Military is a fountain of economic waste, social abuse, and pointless bloodshed in the name of machismo. Trump's parade is just the cherry on a seven layer cake of squandered national wealth.

But it's the thing liberals will fixate on, because we can't ever actually say "The Pentagon sucks ass and makes the world an objectively worse place to live in". It always has to be about this one Great Man Of History doing things wrong in a way his hypothetical liberal alternative would not.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 0 points 35 minutes ago

Parade March is a thing we don’t bother to drill into units (except specifically tasked “Parade Units” that exist to do little circus acts for the high command’s amusement).

That is not accurate.

https://youtu.be/aeFltEjzR2Y?t=1212

Soldiers utilize D&C every day, by and large. Even when running. Its how soldiers are moved, as a group, from point A to point B.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's very important for soldiers to focus on doing "important work to defend our nation" (murdering brown kids) and that they're "productive at their jobs" (bombing hospitals)

[–] idriss@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I came here for this but found people already pointing it out.

DeFeNdInG as seen by everyone else: going to places 5k km away and murdering every living thing there.

VeTeRaNs as seen by everyone else: steroid micro-penis assholes murdering women & children

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The bravest and most honorable men in our nation are doing the hard, honest work of fucking all those military wives while their chud husbands are deployed abroad.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 31 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (4 children)

When has the US military defended the nation? I got the impression that they're mostly used for invading foreign countries for financial gain, cf Iraq, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Sudan, Panama, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Cuba, Guatemala, Korea.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. That's kind of America's whole thing. Making money. Exploiting everything. Americans are the Ferengi.

Defending America = defending capitalism = doing whatever they can to make American, capitalist companies more profitable.

I don't hate capitalism. Don't get me wrong, but I generally don't like capitalists.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

Capitalists are what makes capitalism capitalism. How can you hate one without the other?

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago

Invasion is the defense.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

This is what Americans call "defending the nation"; making war in other countries than their own, believing themselves to be the world police.

I think America has only ever been attacked... Twice... In all of history (Pearl Harbour and 9/11), and both times the defense was pretty piss poor.

America was attacked hundreds of times. The native people lost.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure either of these events can even be counted as an attack. Pearl Harbour is roughly 3800km from the mainland. It's basically an overseas territory. An attack there is like saying the Falkland War was an attack on the UK.

And 9/11 was a terrorist attack, not a war. While it was a big attack, it was still only carried out by a handful of non-state-actors. That's quite a different thing than an actual military attack by a country.

Afaik, the last war on US soil was the civil war.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Hawaii was not a state for almost 2 decades after pearl harbor, so yeah.

The original white house was burned to the ground by British/Canadian troops in 1814.

Not to mention about 100 different American Indian Wars, though some of those were more slaughter than war.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The original white house was burned to the ground by British/Canadian troops in 1814.

Yeah, ok, that counts as a war on US soil, but that's still over 200 years ago.

Not to mention about 100 different American Indian Wars, though some of those were more slaughter than war.

Hard to really count them as wars for the reason you mentioned.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

I think it was probably in protest. However they can, I guess.

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