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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Plagiarizing. It's spelled plagiarizing.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

And yet we all still understood it somehow

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, but you have to consider the poor CEO's and middle managers. They need to be able to strut around an office full of people and feel important. Plus there's all that office space they leased for the next 30 years at a discount that they need to fill with workers to justify the expense!!

It cruel to only consider the happiness of the slave class while ignoring the plight of the ruling class. Don't you people know that?!?!?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

During the pandemic our office was inspected and structurally condemned, so we literally have nowhere to go back to, the building is now a car park. It's great.

I wholeheartedly recommend black mould and a leaky roof to anyone that doesn't want to go back, it might be hard to arrange but it definitely works.

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just gaining back all the commute time everyday is such a huge bonus for me. Nothing at an office can compare to that alone. And I get to add in a ton of other nice bonuses from being at home.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

It may seem silly, but aside from commuting time the biggest advantage for me was being able to use my own bathroom. No bidets in the office washroom!

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The very fact that it is something that the workers want

Is WHY Employers want to halt it.

Too many Employers believe that anything the workers want is necessarily bad for Businesses ... BECAUSE the workers want it

[–] Zaraki42@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago
[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The return to office mandate is such an annoyance. I hope companies who did it suffer because of it.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

One of the top tech companies in my country mandated a return to office because the boss couldn't stand that people were working from Bali instead of chatting with him at the office coffee machines in the cold Estonian winter.

Friend who works there says it's up to the team leads and few want to enforce it and risk losing people. But the CEO got his article in the newspapers saying software engineers are all lazy entitled pieces of shit, which was his real goal. He hates paying people, but the company only gets top talent because of their salaries. Nobody goes there for "innovation" anymore now that it's an established company.

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

This is what bombing those buildings in Fight Club was truly about!

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Working from home has been the default for the last few millenia. Who would have thought that it could make people happier?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I both agree and disagree with the conclusions in the title....

I agree that for many people, they're happier, and likely more productive, working from home.

I would also agree that for many different people, working from an office makes them happier/more productive.

It entirely depends on the job, who you are, and the work culture. Some places are toxic and working from home to get away from it is helpful for job satisfaction. I've known people who simply focus better when they're at the office since they have a lot of distractions at home. I know for me, the opposite is true. at home, I'm in control and can limit exposure to distractions, and I can be more productive, more comfortable and overall less unhappy with my job.

IMO, this discussion is less about what companies want, whether work from home or hybrid, or in office .... The main conclusion that we should be driving home is that different people need different environments to do their best work, and be happiest with their particular job. To put it simply: workers need to be able to choose.

Until we're at the stage where employers care less about how, and where you do the work, and they care more about the work getting done.... We're going to keep going back and forth on this.

I like to work from home. That's me.

I know people who prefer to work from an office. There's plenty of people who feel they work best from the office.

There's plenty of people that need to mix between home and office work.

Bluntly: as long as you can do the work from where you're working, and how you're working, the rest should be flexible. We're (presumably) adults and professionals. If we're given work and we're being paid to do the work, then we will do the work. We don't need to be constantly supervised by middle management like toddlers.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like to work from home. That’s me.

And there is, as it turns out, a lot of people like that. Doesn't actually mean everyone is like that. But it does mean that being given this option, we, as humanity and as workers, are happier.
Your reply reminds me that "I'm not pro-life or pro-choice, I just want people to be able to chose do they want to have an abortion or not".

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

That quote is funny because the statement is clearly indicating that they are pro-choice.

In business though, workers are not often given a choice. You either work from the office, work x days in office and y days from home (hybrid), or only work from home.

90% of the employers that I am aware of, give one of these, maybe two (usually in office and hybrid) as options; usually only one option (in office). A few wfh companies I've worked for do all wfh, which is great for me, but anyone who wants to work from an office, can't.

By giving workers a real choice, you open the company up to a much larger pool of people who are willing/able to do the job. If they're local to an office and want to be in office, cool, set it up. If they're not but they prefer wfh, cool, set it up.

In my experience nearly zero employers provide flexible work options. It's usually one of the three, and if you're lucky, two of the three. It is exceedingly rare to be given all three choices.

Add to this that your preference may change as your life does. Lifestage makes a big difference.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am more productive and less depressed working from site and if i work too much from home I get depressed and adhd kicks in and paralizes me.

I don't see how it benefits everyone not to allow people to work from home at the same time.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

This is me too. I love my home. I’ve lived here a long time and have made this my ideal little place on the planet.

I can be ridiculously hyperfocused and productive on my personal hobby projects at home. However, I cannot get jack shit done for work. I still like to work from home fairly often, but I go into the office on a regular basis. Fortunately, I live close to the office.

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[–] bieren@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Must be banned!!!!!!! How dare Americans have a tiny bit of happiness. We must crush this before it gets out of control.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

In Australia, at the last election, one of the policies of the party who lost was to cut WFH. They lost big time.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not that shocking. Hell, there are millions of Americans who would kill just to work indoors. Office work is the envy of every farm and trade worker with aching feet and knees and various injuries they have to nurse while they labor. Working at home??? It’s absolute luxury.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Office work is the envy of every farm and trade worker

This isn't exactly true. There are, believe it or not, people who prefer to work outdoors and do heavy labor. Especially farm work. Some people aren't really suited for office work. (pun intended)

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A bit disingenuous to skip the part where their bodies are falling apart and they're in constant pain.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This makes the false assumption that office workers don't incur work related repetitive task injuries. Every lower class job, whether in an office or a field, comes with its own bodily injury index.

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 121 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Too bad that happiness is banned in the USA..

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What a silly thing to say. It's merely prohibitively expensive. I mean, reasonably priced and readily available for those that deserve it.

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[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's also nice eating out of your own fridge, using your own toilet, and everything else.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bidet, and that’s all I’ll say

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 96 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I propose that the mods should take this post down, or at least point to the original post, that cmu.fr has obviously plagiarized.

Here is what seems to be the original post: https://indiandefencereview.com/theyve-observed-teleworking-for-four-years-and-reached-one-clear-conclusion-working-from-home-makes-us-happier/

The big difference is that the original article actually points to the study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35379616/ where as the cmu.fr plagiarized version makes no reference whatsoever to the study. Just vague slop about "scientists".

That said, I think that even the original article miscaracterizes the paper. Here is the paper abstract:

Objectives: To investigate the impacts, on mental and physical health, of a mandatory shift to working from home during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Design: Cross sectional, online survey.

Setting: Online survey was conducted from September 2020 to November 2020 in the general population.

Participants: Australian residents working from home for at least 2 days a week at some time in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Main outcome measures: Demographics, caring responsibilities, working from home arrangements, work-related technology, work-family interface, psychosocial and physical working conditions, and reported stress and musculoskeletal pain.

Results: 924 Australians responded to the online questionnaire. Respondents were mostly women (75.5%) based in Victoria (83.7%) and employed in the education and training and healthcare sectors. Approximately 70% of respondents worked five or more days from home, with only 60% having a dedicated workstation in an uninterrupted space. Over 70% of all respondents reported experiencing musculoskeletal pain or discomfort. Gendered differences were observed; men reported higher levels of family to work conflict (3.16±1.52 to 2.94±1.59, p=0.031), and lower levels of recognition for their work (3.75±1.03 to 3.96±1.06, p=0.004), compared with women. For women, stress (2.94±0.92 to 2.66±0.88, p<0.001) and neck/shoulder pain (4.50±2.90 to 3.51±2.84, p<0.001) were higher than men and they also reported more concerns about their job security than men (3.01±1.33 to 2.78±1.40, p=0.043).

Conclusions: Preliminary evidence from the current study suggests that working from home may impact employees' physical and mental health, and that this impact is likely to be gendered. Although further analysis is required, these data provide insights into further research opportunities needed to assist employers in optimising working from home conditions and reduce the potential negative physical and mental health impacts on their employees.

Keywords: COVID-19; mental health; risk management.

So, long story short: this article is slop, copied from another piece of slop that mischaracterized a study. Overall: meh.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

And that study is based on surveys... Literally the lowest possible quality information metric.

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[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (11 children)

A hard truth is that if you see an executive pushing return to office, you know one of two things about them. One of the following is true.

  1. They are terrible at finance and don't understand the sunk-cost fallacy. They have to keep using that building they bought; they've spent so much on it and simply can't bring themselves to sell it.

  2. They're a sexual molester. They're someone that uses the power of their position to coerce sex out of their employees. Fucking their employees is their primary motivation for not retiring early right now. You can't coerce your secretary to give you a blowjob over Zoom.

That's really it. They're either bad at business or they're a sexual predator. If you see an executive pushing return to office, be sure to ask them which one of these they are. Because they're definitely one or the other.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

We've had this capacity for several decades now, and it seems ridiculous that our culture has not fully embraced it with open arms. If that's not a sign that "we the people" aren't running the show, I don't know what is. Freedom my ass.

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

As someone who worked from home for almost a decade before being pulled into the office, I regularly got flack from my peers for it as well as older boomer types. IME, people who are forced into the office frequently feel a sense of “fairness” where they want everyone else to come in as well.

“If I have to be miserable, you should too”

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