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Over the past few decades, the number of Americans who identify as religiously unaffiliated—often referred to as “nones”—has grown rapidly. In the 1970s, only about 5% of Americans fell into this category. Today, that number exceeds 25%. Scholars have debated whether this change simply reflects a general decline in belief, or whether it signals something more complex. The research team wanted to explore the deeper forces at play: Why are people leaving institutional religion? What are they replacing it with? And how are their personal values shaping that process?

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[–] DantesFreezer@lemmy.world 5 points 58 minutes ago

I feel like the unloved sect is really the unitarian universalists. They're basically a doctrine free "church" of social justice. Like, I love going sometimes and just getting more advice on how to be an excellent human to others. And then we have snacks.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago

Lmao because it's horse shit that's why

Source: me, a 37-yo exmormon who was all-in, true believer, until his mid 20s.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago

Part of this is just that the socially conservative pressure to fit in has eased. Time was you had to be "religious" to fit in to communities and it was seen as part of American identity.

I find it hard to believe 75% of Americans are religious. In the UK 37% identify as non religious. 45% identify as Christian yet churches have emptied our and most young people only end up in one for marriages or funerals. People say they're Christian but I have no doubt a large chunk of those people are just ticking a box on a census form as it's part of their identity.

You know what's funny tho

I probably would have a lot more tail if I was attending a church.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 112 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

Well, my whole life, I've lived in a society where organized Christianity has overwhelmingly been a force for evil, rather than a force for good. Fuck, I straight-up believe that most Evangelical Christians are devil worshipers. If your religion leads you to hate, you aren't worshiping God, you're worshiping the Devil.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 53 points 6 hours ago (7 children)

Christianity is, by definition, a cult of human sacrifice.

Kinda puts the entire faith into perspective.

[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 hours ago (8 children)
[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Dooms day death cult.

Lead by Jesus, the dooms day death cult leader.

I hear he's a "good guy."

I don't think dooms day death cult leaders, make believe or not and I just mean a historical grifter non magical, are good people.

Cannibal death cult, If you take part in the sacrament. That is, quite literally, internally perceived as ritual cannibalism.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

When you're actively trying to bring about the end of the world, there's no more apt description.

[–] Clasm@ttrpg.network 3 points 3 hours ago

Suicidal Death Cult

They are actively doing everything in their power to bring about the end of the world.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

They ritualistically eat the body and blood of their god/savior.

Let that sink in.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Well, they were in luck... he's only mostly dead. If he was all the way dead, it wouldn't have worked. but Mostly dead? Miracle Max can work with that.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Death Cult Armageddon, great Dimmu album. My parents got it for me along with Enthrone Darkness Triumphant for Christmas one year but they wouldn’t buy me Diablo II because Diablo “didn’t fit the theme of the holiday.”

In all fairness, Diablo has an entirely different lore than Christianity, I can see where they were coming from. We want to burn Yahweh, not Anu.

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[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

No. The christoan God is evil. They're doing exactly as their religion demands.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 37 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

there is literally nothing that religion can provide that can't be gotten without religion

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 5 hours ago

For real. You can just buy those styrofoam wafers and some cheap wine if you really want them. You don't have to go to church.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

I guess messed up ideas about sexuality and consent in general aren’t strictly under their purview. Or, subservience to arbitrary authority figures.

What about rape in a rectory? Probably doesn’t happen too often outside of a religious context.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 36 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

insight into why.

Because it's not fucking real?

This isn't rocket surgery.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That hasn't become any more or less true in recent years, though. It's worth asking why people are now thinking of the idea differently than they did for the past several thousand

[–] MouldyCat@feddit.uk 7 points 5 hours ago

Well I suppose there's still no proof that there never was a so-called "divine Y-chromosome" as believed in by Christians, but before we knew about DNA, or even human cells, the ridiculous legends of religion were definitely harder to refute. The ridiculousness of those legends was a big part of their power - the more stupid and unhinged a religious story appears to us today, the more in awe believers would have been about it 300 or 400 years ago.

So while religion hasn't become less real in recent years, it has become a lot easier to point out its absurdities.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 52 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

I support a few religious organizations through volunteer work.

My rules for these organizations are simple:

  1. The religion takes a back seat to helping the community
  2. They're not preachy or trying to convert people
  3. They don't diddle little kids.

You'd think it'll be easy to meet that criteria.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah I used to think ''how do Catholics manage to keep going?'' Then my church fought a lawsuit to get them to report child abuse, then bought insurance to buffer any financial loss they might incur while protecting child rapists. I feel like Jesus telling people that if they feel like hurting kids they should stop, take a deep breath, and commit suicide, kind of forbids this sort of behavior.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How would you even know if #3 was true or not, it's not like they advertise it.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MouldyCat@feddit.uk 4 points 4 hours ago

We could.. weigh them? And, if they weigh as much as a duck, then we know they are kiddie fiddlers!

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago

I'm curious which is more common a failing #3 or #2.

most christian charity or aid orgs are mostly about that captive audience.

[–] Ketram@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Only one I can think of is Unitarian Universalist for all 3. Maybe some sort of Buddhism? Though probably have broken #3 and are very big/organized.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I do volunteer for a Unitarian church and a Buddhist temple! Nailed it.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 6 hours ago

The faster the better. It’s fundamentalists creating a lot of the problems in the world as they try to force their beliefs on others.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 15 points 6 hours ago

Better understanding of the physical world than previous generations, for one thing. That and the advent of TV and Internet made it much harder to hide the hypocrisy and crimes.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like they're missing an important point

Most organized religions blue the line between clergy and god so followers need to believe their religious leaders are pretty close to infallible, like God is claimed to be.

However with modern society, information is easy to get and everywhere. So people know about organized religion's issues, and without that structure and reinforcement, we see a slower but substantial reduction in general belief in God that will continue for generations as less people are indoctrinated into organized religion at a young age.

Not sure why the author acts like it's a mystery

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Most organized religions blue the line between clergy and god so followers need to believe their religious leaders are pretty close to infallible, like God is claimed to be.

It's because the fundamental purpose of religion is control for the purpose of concentrating power.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

To understand these trends more fully, the researchers analyzed interview data from 54 participants whose religious involvement had significantly declined over the decade.

These interviews revealed a recurring theme: many young people left institutional religion not because they stopped caring about spirituality, but because they felt a growing disconnect between their personal values and the teachings or practices of religious organizations. They spoke of churches that felt judgmental, hypocritical, or out of touch—particularly on issues of gender and sexuality. Participants described feeling alienated by institutions that seemed to limit, rather than support, their pursuit of authenticity, justice, and self-understanding.

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Gen-Z is all about it though. Gen-Z is stupid and backwards… voting for Trump, going to church. What a bunch of losers.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago

It's cool they'll learn there's no god when trump drafts their asses

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