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I see a lot of people complaining that the Fairphone 6 doesn't have an Aux jack.

Just use an adapter cable.

A 3.5mm Aux jack takes up a significant amount of space just to connect a few wires that could be connected through USB-C anyway, that space could be used for a bigger battery.

Even if there was a good enough reason to keep Aux it should be 2.5mm Aux and not the usual 3.5 as it does exactly the same thing but uses less space

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[–] grueling_spool@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Not enough room for a 3.5mm audio port, but we absolutely must have a 50MP dual camera plus TOF sensor!

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[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 day ago

Extremely misinformed post. Upvoted.

[–] Million@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I ended up bying a phone without a jack. I got 2 dongles that split into a jack and a charging port, so i can charge in bed while watching videos. One of the jacks has static noise and whine, the other has i think some kind of digital to analog interface that cuts the sound conpletely when the audio is too low.

So i hear static or when i watch a video or listen to an audiobook, when there is a pause in speech i hear the sound cut out completely, or if a video has soft background music on it, it might not pick up on it at all.

It's very distracting.

And if you go online to buy a dongle, they dont really say what they have in them, or you dont know how your phone handles the conversion etc.

So I don't think "just buy a dongle" is the solution. It works but now i have all these problems i didnt have with my old phone that had a jack...

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My dongle that supports charging and analog audio for my car has a whine that changes pitch with the motor speed (guessing it's very sensitive to the voltage or frequency of the alternator or something). Though at least it's low enough that it's almost unnoticeable when actual audio is playing.

It also requires the phone be unlocked to start sending audio through the USB interface. And maybe about 10% of the time whe I get it all set up and music/podcast playing, the motion of hitting the lock button on my phone to turn the screen off also bumps the usb port enough for it to briefly disconnect, which stops my audio and forces me to unlock my phone again to get it playing through the cable.

The phone needs to have a DAC anyways if it wants to drive its speakers. I could live with a smaller analog jack, but hate having to use a separate device with its own DAC that is probably way cheaper than the one already in my phone plus they probably don't even isolate the audio signal from the charging signal because the main selling point is just the ability to play audio and charge at the same time.

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[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Aux jack is much more reliable than usb-c and can be plugged into any orientation. It is a superior connector. The size difference is negotiable and phones should be made a few mmm larger anyway to fit peoples hand better.

[–] Gabadabs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago

I disagree. My phone has perfectly acceptable battery life and a 3.5mm jack, I use it all day and get home with over 40% left every day. I need the jack to use my earbuds at work, and to listen to music in my car - and I'm gonna be honest with you something as small as an adapter WILL get lost by me. Everyone's got a different use case, and it might not be important for you, but your use case isn't everyone's.

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 2 days ago

I disagree, truly unpopular well done.

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 126 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Once again, remember folks, this is unpopular opinions. Which means this is a good post, not a bad one.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (4 children)

But....but.....but......

I just wanna strangle him. Can I strangle him a little? Just a little choke....

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You’re going need an AUX cord for that.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Good thing it isn't plugged into anything

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So long as you promise it'll be under 10 seconds

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Longer!! I want to see the light

[–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funny saying this to the moth guy

This. This is my legacy now 😭

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[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago

I 90% agree, I swapped to wireless earbuds about a decade ago when my aux port on whatever phone I had then broke, and I immediately preferred it. I went from buying £10 wired earphones from a supermarket what sounded shit and broke every month to £25 wireless earphones that sounded shit and broke every 6 months, so for me it was am improvement. I was also a chronic "catch headphone cable on every handle" victim, to the point that I immediately preferred the wireless solution. Another thing is when my wireless headphones break, they fucking break; I go with one earbud for about a month then inevitably buy a new pair. When my wired headphones started to degrade, I always fought it, ending up in a losing battle of finding that perfect way to hold them to make them still work. The only downside I have nowadays is when I'm listening to music or a video and realise I've misplaced my phone, which isn't really an issue, just that it was impossible when it was tethered to my ears.

But I'm probably part of a very small minority when it comes to my preference. I carry a compact camera any day I leave the house intending to take photos, so my ideal phone would have one rear camera that prioritises efficiency over quality. I'd have no headphone port, and to be honest, I could live with no ports and wireless charging and data transfer. I've had two smartphones in the last that had their USB-C ports fail as chargers (both galaxy S8s), and I could go years without needing to use the port for anything else. My dream phone would have no ports, one rear camera without a bump, no front camera, minimal tactile side buttons, be pretty slim, have a swappable battery and run a FOSS OS and mostly FOSS apps.

I respect the voices that want a smartphone equivalent to a ThinkPad a lot, but I don't really think it's anywhere near as necessary as a ThinkPad would be, because for most tasks that need something like that, I'd just use that.

That being said, there's two reasons I don't 100% agree. The first is to do with the fairphone specifically. More battery space and better waterproofing don't really apply to a phone where I can swap the battery and it comes apart so much that it's not really competitively waterproof. The second is larger, which is that I can just not use a headphone jack if I prefer wireless, while people who prefer wired are having increasingly few options available on the market.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Well, that's definitely an unpopular opinion.

For me, there are two reasons losing the aux port sucks. First, it means I have to pay extra for functionality I want. It's not like the phone is cheaper without the aux port so it's just more money out of pocket for me. Second, it means I have to keep track of a dongle. Something I'd be using nearly everyday.

The funny thing about battery size; they could make the phone 1mm thicker and you'd get way more battery capacity from that than removing an aux port.

Also, wireless sucks dick. May as well give my own unpopular opinion.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I used to be a big fan of rhythm games on android, but the loss of the headphone jack has completely killed it for me. Bluetooth latency is still like 200ms, it's insane. I can't stand to even watch video with it

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

Fuck you, well done.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 day ago

My 2yo phone is still virgin on his aux jack port.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 66 points 2 days ago (32 children)

If the solution to a problem that didn't exist before is "buy an extra thing" it's not a solution. It's bullshit to sell you even more garbage you shouldn't need.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Why do these threads keep assuming everyone has high quality aux headphones lying around and nobody has wireless headphones, almost a decade after this trend started? Even assuming you don't have a prior investment in earphones, unless you're fine with the shitty bundled earbuds you need to buy new stuff regardless of the connection.

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I don't understand how people like Bluetooth earbuds.

You have to constantly clean them because of ear wax for starters, and they're much more uncomfortable if you're sweaty. Not to mention all the years of doctors saying don't use Q-tips because it pushes ear wax into your ears just for everyone to start shoving buds in there anyway. To bad the younger generation didn't get to learn about wired clip-ons or flat cables. Wish they still make them but I suppose bonephonesoike Shokz are safer for when cycling.

Then there's the battery issues. That just feels like a downgrade. Not only is it yet another thing you have to remember to charge, but they can run out of battery. Aux version literally never runs out of battery. Maybe if we had a new gen of battery that lasted months sure, but we don't yet.

And lastly battery on phone isn't an issue. I have an Xperia 1 V and can easily use the phone all day without running out of battery, and it has a headphone jack.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Not all Bluetooth earbuds are in-ears.

And I prefer charging than having to deal with a cable all the time and the jack is a real dirt magnet.

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[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Yo I love my bonephones

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[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

it should be 2.5mm Aux and not the usual 3.5

true

that space could be used for a bigger battery

for what? for like 10 minutes of extra time?

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[–] GuyFi@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

But why remove it? Having the option is more convenient then having an adapter, reduces e-waste and you never have to play the "Where the hell did I leave the dongle?" game ever again! 2.5mm sounds great in theory but the vast majority of stuff you'd listen to music on uses 3.5mm.

Solid unpopular opinion.

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[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wouldn‘t a second USB-C outlet make sense? One for charging, one for audio/data/external devices. Or is that still too much space wasted?

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

There are "gaming" phones that have two USB-C ports for the purpose of not obstructing the hands while gaming, but they can also be used as you describe (iirc). It would be a nice feature on mainstream flagships.

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[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

2.5mm plugs suck ass. My first smart phone had one and I HATED it. It's so tiny, fragile, and I DETEST working with it.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

I'm with you.

[–] Coolkat@slrpnk.net 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

On top of all other issues, those fucking dongles wiring breaks really fast

[–] ech@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago

And wears out your USB plug exponentially faster.

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