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Source: Pew Research

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's your problem in a nutshell, America.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 2 days ago

This person does not understand how America got to this point.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 91 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A map about people who paid attention in history and government class vs those who didn’t.

[–] OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Exactly. Grew up Christian and it convinced me to be agnostic. Even then, I still would never add religious beliefs to the teaching of children early in life, when they clearly lack intelligent decision making skills.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

I think teaching about religion is fine and actually good for interacting with people outside your culture. Teaching of a specific religion is where you run into trouble.

I had a unit early on in school and another one in my early teens where we basically learned about the origins of a bunch of different religions and cultures surrounding them. Learned a lot about people that otherwise would seem unapproachable to me.

[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, are you ever convinced as an agnostic? I thought, that was the point.

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The point of the establishment clause is that it shouldn't matter what the majority says about religion. It should mean exactly nothing. Tyranny of the majority shouldn't be allowed to make non-Christians into second class citizens.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That's a lot of stupid morons who pretend to care about the constitution but don't.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's a lot of stupid morons who pretend to care about the ~~constitution~~ bible but don't.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago

Pretty much.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons."

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 66 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I thought that the deeply religious states were more of a minority. Yikes.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 67 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They are. Those areas are thinly populated.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it's land that votes, not people.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

I thought it was corporations...

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just over half of U.S. adults (52%) say they favor allowing public school teachers to lead their classes in prayers that refer to Jesus

Nationwide, a slightly larger share of Americans say they favor allowing teacher-led prayers referencing God (57%)

It's right there in OP.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Ohio and Florida are thinly populated? Texas has a large area but also population.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ohio is mostly corn and "Hell is real" billboards.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but it also has the 7th highest population in the country and a higher population density than California, somehow.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

California is also big.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

I grew up in one of those states and it's part of why I'm a certified America Hater today. I genuinely don't think people who haven't been exposed to it, even within the country, but especially outside of it, really have a grasp on how prominent and powerful religion is in the US. Hell, I didn't fully understand it myself until I lived outside of the country for a time and saw what normal is like. This country is a madhouse.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

To learn anything about American politics you need a county level map.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

With size adjusted to account for population! It becomes useless as a map, but significantly more illustrative of the political realities.

The US 2020 Presidential Election Cartogram:

Oh, and here's 2024

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[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 5 points 3 days ago

Relative to the US average. But the US is a very deeply religious nation compared to other developed nations.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Maine is the least religious state but for some reason is gray on the chart. I'm curious about how the question was asked in the study

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago

What the fuck

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

What the fuck Michigan

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As culture wars continue to brew in schools across the United States, one unconventional group is pushing for more representation in the classroom: Satanists. This has particularly caused controversy in states like Tennessee, where an elementary school formed a program for children called the "After School Satan Club." 

This program was created by an organization called the Satanic Temple, a relatively new religious movement that purports to teach "compassion and empathy toward all creatures." However, the introduction of these clubs has unsurprisingly made parents upset, while supporters of the Satanic Temple say they are working to improve the lives of children.

https://theweek.com/education/satanists-school-representation-after-school-satan-club

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

The Satanic Temple really is great. For those that haven't heard of them, check it out. Donate. Join. They use religious laws for the promotion of logic, reason, and empathy.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm saving this for when the civil war is about to break out and I need a rough estimate of where the front lines will be.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If there's a civil war, Michigan will quickly be appropriated to Canada.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Lookit that. The states with religious indoctrination vs states with educational “indoctrination.”

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If they want there is nothing stopping them from praying in school if they want, they just can't compel others to do it with them.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 8 points 3 days ago

That's the thing. It's not enough that they're free to follow their religion, they need to force everyone else to follow it too.

Interesting, places that many cultures and beliefs are coming led heavily oppose it, while states that are majority WASPs are for it.

Interesting that simply being around people of other beliefs can change your way of thinking.

[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There is no way utah and idaho are neutral here

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

You’d be surprised. The non-Christian/Non-Mormon population of those states is extremely convinced of the need for separation of church and state.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago

Tax the church!

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How was the research conducted? Their website talks about the sample size, but I didn't see how respondents were selected. They claim it's representative of the national population, but if they're cold-calling random people to ask the questions, I can almost guarantee there are going to be more older people responding because younger people tend not to answer unknown phone calls.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/religious-landscape-study-methodology/

A total of 205,100 sampled addresses were mailed survey invitations. Respondents were given a choice to complete the survey online, by mail, or by calling a toll-free number and completing the survey over the phone with an interviewer. Of the 36,908 U.S. adults who completed the survey, 25,250 did so online, 10,733 did so by mail, and 925 did so by phone.

It goes on to say the results were then weighted to get a representative demographic sample, e.g. if more older people answered, younger responders would count for more.

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

The United States had a good run. I hope I see the entire West Coast secede in my lifetime.

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I feel bad for Colorado, always stuck in the middle.

[–] artifex@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago

Jesus Christ.

And I say that without a hint of irony.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Why just Christian prayers? Why not prayer in general?

Use a generic "what do you think about prayer in public schools?" survey, and then where states vote YES create campaigns to make satanic and Muslim prayer programs at schools in the states that were all for prayer lol

Because most of these places have <1% non Christians in their communities. Anything else is scary

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