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[–] realitista@lemmy.world 119 points 1 week ago (4 children)

People still use the Facebook spyware app on their phone?

[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Young people have Instagram spyware on their phones and old people have Facebook spyware.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Oh so many.

[–] Pirate@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

More people use Facebook today than in 2015 when you were using it.

About 2x more people.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is that mainly in India and Southeast Asia? For some people there Facebook is “the internet”, almost like a modern day AOL. Zuck would jizz himself if he could send you free trial CDs twice a week packed with his spyware.

[–] Pirate@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This page has all the information you might need on the topic. India is on top, but the US is a solid second place.

https://www.demandsage.com/facebook-statistics/

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

some additional relevant statistics

united states barely saw 1% growth year over year and are projecting that growth to continue to slow.

India has nearly 3x the users of the United States. the u.s. is still second because it's the country it started in, but it's not far ahead of the 3rd and 4th place countries. India is an extreme outlier.

unfortunately they don't break down the age demographic by region, but I'd bet that if we specifically look at daily active users in the United States the age demo would skew much older.

so, it seems like it's similar to what many fast food restaurants have been experiencing lately. the growth opportunities in the United States dried up so the decided to push like hell everywhere else. i bet the growth they saw in India over the last decade was explosive. probably bigger than anything they had ever seen before. bigger than when it was still growing in the u.s.. meanwhile they project that over the next decade in the u.s. they'll see maybe 8% user growth and that's pretty optimistic.

so we probably won't actually see much Facebook marketing in the u.s.. the only way they can capture more u.s users is by buying more apps, like when they bought Instagram.

this does seem to imply that the part of the world where Facebook has become a fact of life is very specifically India. I'm sorry to hear that for them.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

194 million US users? That’s got to be bullshit. That’s almost two thirds of the population. Even if they claimed half of the population, I would still call bullshit.

Maybe I would believe 1/2 of people over 60. And that goes down as we lower the age. If we’re talking under 30 years old, I might believe 1/5, maybe.

These fake numbers are how they defraud advertisers and data broker scammers.

[–] Almonds@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Facebook is damn near a necessity in the area I live because no one wants to host their own websites. I've still not given in to making an account, but I'm starting to feel the struggle of not being able to contact small businesses.

So, I can imagine some of those users are multiples of the same person if they also have an account for their business

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 week ago

My parents still do

[–] MummifiedClient5000 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Nice dick bro, ever wondered how it would look in a Studio Ghibli movie?"

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That brings up a good point though. Based on just the screenshot here, it seems like the user wont have a choice of what gets uploaded. People keep some pretty raunchy photos on their phone sometimes. Even kids might have some questionable photos. This is just asking for trouble.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

How long will it take for a sfw kid picture with pink cloths or a splash of red to be misinterpreted, generated and tied to that user? There was already a time on youtube when blood red cloths were getting people demonetized for gore.

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 week ago (5 children)

No telling what else they do with your pictures once they're on Meta's servers. Literal spyware (as if it hasn't already been for a long time).

Imagine having your nudes accidentally ghiblified, with the originals stored indefinitely on Meta's servers.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago

Imagine Palantir connecting to it and when you apply for a job denying you that due to that specific photo.

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[–] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

If you’re still on Facebook, you’re probably not aware of what this means or why it’s a bad thing.

[–] ThePiedPooper@discuss.online 54 points 1 week ago

Fuck Facebook. Fuck Meta. Fuck Zuckerberg. Fuck the oligarchs. Fuck LLMs/AI. Eat the Rich.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago
[–] morph3ous@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is just gross. Just another privacy invasion from the company that decided to track and de-anonymize people around the internet even while those people were doing all the right things to prevent it.

https://lifehacker.com/tech/meta-apps-have-been-covertly-tracking-android-users-web-activity-for-months

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The distressing thing for me is knowing that a lot of my friends (and exes) are exactly the sort of people that'll just absent-mindedly click OK without reading it and share every single photo they've ever taken of me; photos which Facebook's facial recognition will easily tag.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Why do any of you still use facebook?

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

FB itself for a community group, and Messenger for my family group chat 🤷

The group now has a presence on Discord, but there are still 26 times as many members on FB. In Hungary many people still use FB as their main social network. At most they also use Instagram, but that obviously doesn't work for closed discussion groups.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Fediverse is still mostly Westerner.

While on Facebook, there are a ton of community from SEA, East Asia, Africa, Middle East, and so on.

Also, Facebook Lite makes the poorest people in my country to be able to access social media without using too many internet quota.

The variation of groups is far beyond any social media, even Reddit or any other community site. You can get thousands of variation of Minecraft groups that exactly suits your community needs. Or maybe just a city chicken fried seller community.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Facebook works perfectly fine in browser, there's literally no need for that shit app.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It actually doesn't, they lock you out of messenger unless you're using the app

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Get thee to messenger.com then. Save it as a PWA and its like having the app but you give Meta as little as possible.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

messenger.com does not work on mobile, except if you switch your browser to desktop mode. It's quite hard to use it, even lots of text become smaller, so lots of people wouldn't keep using that

[–] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago

Works just fine if you put your phone in desktop mode.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

don't have Facebook on your phone?

better yet, don't have Facebook?

zero sympathy for anyone caught in this, you've all been warned for at least a decade on what supporting Facebook means, why get upset about this now?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

My mom has facebook and also has my photos.

Unless we can get EVERYONE to respect each others' privacy, arsoning meta ceo until next one gets scared is the only option.

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[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The LAST thing I'd do with my mobile phone is install Facebook or Instagram. What a nightmare.

[–] jim3692@discuss.online 17 points 1 week ago

Unless you run a custom ROM, like LineageOS or GrapheneOS, you most probably have some Meta apps installed at system level.

This is Meta Services, as a system app which can only be disabled, on my work Samsung.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

I don't have many pictures of myself on my own phone. Most pictures of me are on the phones of the people who took them.

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[–] hefejefe@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don’t use their app. Web only.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also, don't use their website.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

When you share with Facebook, you share with Trump.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

And don't let their Like buttons and cookies exist in other websites too

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

God that's ridiculous... the image hash depends on the image not having changed at all from the one uploaded by the user. If they're screenshotted and cropped, or sent via a messaging platform that compresses them, they'll be visually similar enough to not matter, and different enough to have a different hash. So, Zuck gets a free peek at your your nudes, and all you get is a false sense of security.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

Yes and no, there are specific image hashing algorithms that attempt to add a likeness score.

These are already used with in the cloud to combat CSAM

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Facebook is just socially accepted malware.

[–] 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com 10 points 1 week ago

Because plenty of people care very little about data or security but see all those people on there... so explaining how it is bad matters little as they've used facebook for over a decade

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Nb4 a "bug" causes that setting to be true for all users just like with the cambridge analitica scandal

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

Well look on the bright side. AI is about to become really good at drawing penises under fat bellies.

[–] sixty@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Crazy framing

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I bet a lot of people will slow because they will not read it or not really understand what they are accepting. Some will even share the new AI creating as something nice while they are giving up their private photos to Meta

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