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Schools and lawmakers are grappling with how to address a new form of peer-on-peer image-based sexual abuse that disproportionately targets girls.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

probably because there's a rapist in the white house.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To add to that. I live in a red area and since the election I’ve been cat called much more. And it’s weird too, cus I’m middle aged…. I thought I’d finally disappear…

the toxic manosphere/blogosphere/whatever it's called has done so much lifelong damage

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe let's assume all digital images are fake and go back to painting. Wait... what if children start painting deepfakes ?

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Or pasting someone's photo over porn...in their minds...

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] argl@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Can't afford this much cheese today to find just the right slice for every bikini photo...

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

God I'm glad I'm not a kid now. I never would have survived.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 72 points 2 days ago (4 children)

For example, Louisiana mandates a minimum five-year jail sentence no matter the age of the perpetrator.

That's just on it's face stupid. A thirteen year old boy is absolutely gonna wanna see girls in his age group naked. That's not pedophilia. It's wanting to see the girls he fantasizes about at school every day. Source: I was a thirteen year old boy.

It shouldn't be treated the same as when an adult man generates it; there should be nuance. I'm not saying it's ok for a thirteen year old to generate said content: I'm saying tailor the punishment to fit the reality of the differences in motivations. Leave it to Louisiana to once again use a cudgel rather than sense.

I'm so glad I went through puberty at a time when this kind of shit wasn't available. The thirteen year old version of me would absolutely have got myself in a lot of trouble. And depending on what state I was in, seventeen year old me could have ended listed as a sex predetor for sending dick pics to my gf cause I produced child pornography. God, some states have stupid laws.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In general, even up here in woke-ville, punishments have gotten a lot more strict for kids. There’s a lot more involvement of police, courts, jail. As a parent it causes me a lot of anxiety - whatever happened to school being a “sandbox” where a kid can make mistakes without adult consequences, without ruining their lives? Did that ever exist?

[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can already picture that as an Onion headline:

New York Renames State to 'WokeVille'. NYC to follow.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

it existed if society liked you enough.

fascists just have a habit of tightening that belt smaller and smaller, is what’s going on.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

As a father of teenage girls, I don't necessarily disagree with this assessment, but I would personally see to it that anyone making sexual deepfakes of my daughters is equitably and thoroughly punished.

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is a difference between ruining the life of a 13 year old boy for the rest of his life with no recourse and no expectations.

Vs scaring the shit out of them and making them work their ass off doing an ass load of community service for a summer.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (8 children)

ruining the life of a 13 year old boy for the rest of his life with no recourse

And what about the life of the girl this boy would have ruined?

This is not "boys will be boys" shit. Girls have killed themselves over this kind of thing (I have personal experience with suicidal teenage girls, both as a past friend and as a father).

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect an equivalent punishment that has the potential to ruin his life.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 18 points 2 days ago

Fake pictures do not ruin your life… sorry…

Our puritanical / 100% sex culture is the problem, not fake pictures…

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 15 points 2 days ago

It is not abnormal to see different punishment for people under the age of 18. Good education about sex and what sexual assault does with their victims (same with guns, drugs including alcohol etc).

You can still course correct the behaviour of a 13 year old. There is also a difference between generating the porn and abusing it by sharing it etc.

The girls should be helped and the boys should be punished, but mainly their behaviour needs to be correcte

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yes, absolutely. But with recognition that a thirteen year old kid isn't a predator but a horny little kid. I'll let others determine what that punishment is, but I don't believe it's prison. Community service maybe. Written apology. Stuff like that. Second offense, ok, we're ratcheting up the punishment, but still not adult prison.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 6 points 2 days ago

In a properly functioning world, this could easily be coupled with particular education on power dynamics and a lesson on consent, giving proper attention to why this might be more harmful to get than to him.

Of course, – so long as we're in this hypothetical world – you'd just have that kind of education be a part of sex ed. or the like for all students, to begin with, but, as we're in this world and that's Louisiana…

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 145 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Lawmakers are grappling with how to address ...

Just a reminder that the government is actively voting against regulations on AI, because obviously a lot of these people are pocketing lobbyist money

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Oh I just assumed that every Conservative jerks off to kids

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Deepfakes might end up being the modern version of a bikini. In the olden days, people wore these to the beach. Having less was scandalous and moral decay. Yet, now we wear much less.

Our grandchildren might simply not give a damn about their nudity, because it is assumed that everyone is deepfaking everyone.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These are all worn voluntarily. This issue isn’t about the equivalent of scandalously clad young girls, it’s like if girls were being involuntarily stripped of their clothing by their classmates. It’s not about modesty standards it’s about sexual abuse.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

It can be both. The cornerstone of why nudity can be abused, is that society makes it shameful to be bare. If some generations from now that people can just shrug and not care, that is one less tool an abuser can use against people.

In any case, I am of the mind that people of my generation might be doing their own version of the Satanic Panic, or the reaction against rap music. For better or worse, older people cannot relate to the younger.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Welp, if I had kids they would have one of those scramble suits like in a scanner darkly.

It would of course be their choice to wear them but Id definitely look for ways to limit their time in areas with cameras present.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's just called the outside now. Assume you are on camera at all times the moment you step out the front door. To be safe in the surveillance we live in today, best act as though you are being recorded in your own home as well.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

best act as though you are being recorded in your own home as well.

If you don't know, don't try? Seems a bit defeatist.

There's also the matter of "you" the NPC and well... "You".

You can rest easy knowing Trump knows you're at work, but not the contents of the monologue you gave on Palestine on a political XMPP chatroom.

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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 53 points 3 days ago (69 children)

Honestly I think we need to understand that this is no different to sticking a photo of someone's head on a porn magazine photo. It's not real. It's just less janky.

I would categorise it as sexual harassment, not abuse. Still serious, but a different level

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