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[–] carrylex@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago

They should have let it die because nearly everything else is nowadays somehow better:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNG#Comparison_with_other_file_formats

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 81 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

2029 Headline: Worlds largest data breach caused by zero day exploit in popular PNG 3.0 renderer

the payload was reportedly embedded in an animated image of the attacker repeatedly flicking his left testicle

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 18 hours ago

I bet it was a single flick and he ran it on a loop.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 37 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Animated PNG has been trying to be an extension to the PNG spec for 20+ years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Right there's actually like a select few applications that support it which is cool, but so many get confused when they see an apng file with frames.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 134 points 1 day ago (29 children)

But is it backwards compatible with an old version that can't be updated?

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago

Speaking for animation, your browser probably already supports APNG. APNG is 21 years old and has decent adoption. But it’s officially part of the club.

That said, APNGs are fat as fuck and they’re a pretty old solution to animated graphics with an alpha channel. Don’t expect to see everyone making APNGs all of the sudden. There is a reason why people have kept it at a distance.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, this was my first thought. How many slightly older, no-longer-being-updated pieces of software will fail to open the new version? Hopefully it’s built in a way that it just falls back to legacy and ignores the extra information so you can at least load the file.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Popular photo and video editing apps like Photoshop, DaVinci Resolve, and Avid Media Composer already support it, alongside Chrome, Safari, and Firefox. Apple’s iOS and macOS also work with the new file standard.

This is all the article mentions. I hope you’re right about the backwards compatibility.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 58 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I remember the Wild West Web days when it was a toss up seeing if animated Gifs, transparencies in images, or the specific hexadecimal for your personal shade of purple you created would render properly between browsers.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 38 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Lies! That gif is sped up 2000%!

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

LOL, I heard that gif. Timed it in my mind, on the money OP.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I mean, that's already how animated .gifs work. If somehow you manage to load one into a viewer that doesn't support the animation functionality it will at least dutifully display the first frame.

How the hell you would manage to do that in this day and age escapes me, but there were a fair few years in the early '90s where you might run into that sort of thing.

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[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 18 points 1 day ago

Some of this is paving the cowpath - the animated PNG stuff is 20 years old and e.g. Firefox has had support since March 2007.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

The PNG format is made of chunks that have determined roles, and provides provisions for newer "standardized" chunks alongside the custom chunks it had supported until now. It is likely that PNG made with newer software that does not use new features, or uses only additional features, will remain readable by older software to some extent.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 18 hours ago

Jxl train choo choo

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

I could have sworn animated pngs were a thing in the Macromedia Fireworks days. Really dating myself with that ref.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There were two different animated PNG extensions, MNG and APNG. Neither of them ever really caught on. I guess they're hoping to do better by baking it into the core spec.

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

APNG is what they're using in v3, so all many libraries need to do* is update that code for HDR.

* surely that's easy, right?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, on a Linux system that's not riddled with flatpak / snap / ... You'd basically only need to update libpng and you'd be good.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Yes. But if you live in the future, you have to wait for dozens of dozens of intermediate to do so! Great!

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[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Now if anyone don't mind explaining, PNG vs JXL?

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

JXL is badly supported but it does offer lossless encoding in a more flexible and much more efficient way than png does

Basically jxl could theoretically replace png, jpg, and also exr.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Interestingly, I downloaded GNOME's pride month wallpaper to see what it looked like, and the files were JXL. Never seen them in the wild before that

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Some parts of the open source world probably still desperately try to make JXL happen. This is understandable, considering its potential. Shame this wouldn't work.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

Why are they trying to make it happen, and why it no work? Is JXL better than PNG? Maybe I need to do some research to better learn the difference

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Is it pronounced png or png?

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fracturing support for a legacy format makes so much more sense than actually supporting a modern format like JXL, right?

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