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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

They also bundle twice as much crapware

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago

finally some good news for us Samsung victims/owners.

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 137 points 4 days ago (5 children)

From @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on a post over at !android@lemdro.id

Yeah this is just manufacturers self rating themselves. This is just like VW cars rating themselves as getting 5-10mpg better than their competitors, when really they were just measuring from the balls.

The up side is if they fail to meet those ratings then are the consumers entitled to some sort of compensation?

Btw, I love how Piefed shows comments from cross-posts. Every client should do it, helps make the fediverse feel bigger and more diverse.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This comment says otherwise:

https://lemmy.world/comment/18057099

How is battery life measured under this new EU regulation?

One interesting detail is that the battery endurance rating in the new labels is tested using the same software used by many tech reviewers: SmartViser. This French automation company works with labs and manufacturers to simulate real-world usage. So now, the battery performance you see on the label is based on consistent, lab-tested data, not just marketing claims.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

the actual legislation is not that specific as far as i can tell:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX%3A32023R1669#anx_I

Article 5

Measurement methods

The information to be provided pursuant to Articles 3 and 4 shall be obtained by reliable, accurate and reproducible measurement and calculation methods, which take into account the recognised state-of-the-art measurement and calculation methods, as set out in Annex IV.

Article 6

Verification procedure for market surveillance purposes

Member States shall apply the verification procedure laid down in Annex IX when performing the market surveillance checks referred to in Article 8(3) of Regulation (EU) 2017/1369.

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[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's also wrong. That comment is misinformation.

They are lab tested by a 3rd party in the EU, SmartViser.

Have you worked with 3rd party testing companies? It isn't the end all be all. Even in 3rd party testing manufactures get wiggle room, and can voluntarily derate their numbers. Especially if there's any accountability for failing to meet those numbers there's a good reason to do so.

That's amazing, thanks for sharing that about piefed. More people should hear this. It ties the Fediverse together nicely and is likely opt-out.
I've been holding off on using it more because I haven't found a replacement for Summit. But because of that feature, I'll make a bigger effort.

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[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Sorry, no way I am going back to Samsung. I had the A71 and it was a TERRIBLE smart phone. I switched to the Pixel 6 and it was night and day.

I just need to get off my ass and install Graphene.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

From a budget phone to a flagship?

Yeah, i can see how the difference would be night and day....

Regardless pixel is a great series of phone if the OS works for you then stick with google phones.

Personally i like samsung. Even if they have gotten pretty shady. Since i owned the s2 years back i have always found myself liking samsung.

Tried nexus 6, tried the OG pixel which i liked but ruined when i dropped it in a barrel filled with potatos and water. (No k wont elaborate, its more fun to leave you guessing)

Tried huawei and enjoyed my p20 pro and p30 pro but once the fold 3 came out i was back with samsung. Got a fold 6 now and am very happy.

If i recall, since the advent of smart phones, i went: Sony xperia x10, Galaxy S2, Galaxy S4 mini, Google Nexus 6, Google Pixel, Huawei P20 pro, Huawei P30 pro, Galaxy Fold 3, Galaxy Fold 6,

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 22 points 3 days ago

The Pixel line is comparable to the Samsung S line, you got a budget phone before

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're comparing apples and oranges. The A71 isn't supposed to be comparable with a pixel 9.

You're comparing the three-door Nissan to a Lamborghini

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You misunderstand. I went to from the A71 to the 6. I am only recently on the 9.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Had endlesss issues with 2x Nexus phones, eschewed google, gave them another chance with a Pixel 6Pro, sold it after a month it was so shitty and grabbed a Samsung S22u that i still use. I use the pen so often its shitty not having one and goodlock does along looottts of customisation. I also mostly prefer their apps to googles, alas googles cant be deleted :(

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That data is independently researched or Samsung gave that to the EU and it's published as-is?

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 25 points 3 days ago

The new law does not mandate third-party review. It's the innkeeper claiming that the wine is good.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 29 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Although, replacing the battery on the Fairphone is so much easier that 1000 cycles is acceptable.

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[–] Alchalide@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I received 100 dollars from Google for nerfing my battery capacity on my pixel 6a. If you have an pixel 6a you can also get this.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Before anyone rushes to replace their phones my Pixel 5 is nearly 5 years old, still on original battery (would be on at least 1200 cycles) and is presently sitting at 92% and claiming 1 day 11hrs remaining. Off the charger since 9:45 this morning and used for streaming music to my car while I was driving earlier. It still easily holds over 24 hours charge in my usage, so if I forget to charge it at night it's usually around 40% in the morning and I can plug it in sometime in the morning to top up. Perfectly useable after almost 5 years, and this is pretty normal for Pixels in my experience.

Love the new EU measurement standards but per other people's comments above they do not seem to mandate strict third-party testing, but rather rely on manufacturers submitting their results and adhering to the set test standards. This has not worked out well in the past, it should be mandatory third-party.

Cannot wait to see the return of user-replaceable batteries (thank you again, EU).

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[–] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I find that I wear out the charging port before the battery. I don't even plug it in that much either.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Try cleaning out the USB-C port. Lint gets compacted in there and it can prevent the plug from seating correctly. Most charging problems I’ve had were resolved by scraping the lint out of the port, with a plastic floss pick thing or an unbent staple. Careful not to damage the contacts though.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago (7 children)

That’s strange, considering they all use the same battery suppliers.

[–] Zanz@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Samsung encourages battery provisioning in it by the user. So most people using a samsung only charge to eighty percent.

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[–] ter_maxima@jlai.lu 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But they don't have GrapheneOS 😟

[–] asdfbla@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the future of grapheneos is not certain anyway with Google going closed source on all the drivers and device trees

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago

They made it very clear that they'll continue. It's just a bit harder now. Plus, they'll fast track their own hardware now.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

1,000 charge cycles: OnePlus 13

Hmm. This one has newer silicone-carbon lithium-ion batteries, which should actually increase charge cycles, so what's happening here?

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 25 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Isn't one plus one of the brands that has their own fast charging tech, that's extra fast?

Makes total sense if they traded in longevity for speed.

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[–] ronflex@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I can anecdotally attest to this. I've been using the same Samsung phone since basically 2020 with original battery and the runtime is still damn good for what I need.

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[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Can confirm my pixel 6a battery went to dogshit this week. Almost feels like it's more the update than anything with the battery.... but I guess I'll be learning to switch battery and finally going back to lineageos

[–] TheWonderfool@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah they sent a communication to pixel 6a owners saying that they will force an update that will reduce battery usage. In case you did not know, Google is providing a 100$ check, or 150$ discount on their store for 6a owners.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Their obsession with the tensor AI chip is very strange

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[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 17 points 4 days ago (12 children)

I'm at 943 cycles on my Pixel 6 Pro and it's still going strong. I slow charge it every night and try to avoid fully draining the battery to slow down the deterioration, which seems to have worked pretty well. Thankfully a battery replacement is only $50 so it won't cost much when I do have to replace it.

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