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Sayori meme representing Linux users. Sayori is disgusted by text reading "receiving pre-installed bloatware" and instead approves "accumulating bloatware over time". Bloatware refers to unused packages.
Edit: You are so kind to give me advice on how to remove bloatware, but I don't need it :D
this is y i reinstall my gentoo box weekly by the time im done compiling all the packeges i need on my celeron chip and got all the bloatware back its time to reinstall
Maybe the real bloatware is the friends we made along the way
How to uninstall friends?
Shred friends
They are characteristically similar some times...
NixOS: Always installing exactly the same bloatware.
This thread is hilarious. Do what you want, but to rm -rf (assume /) to get rid of unwanted packages is the most Windows thing.
No matter your package manager, I am sure there is a way to get a list of explicitly installed packages and then going through it and uninstalling with the package manager automatically removing itβs dependencies seems like a way faster method.
This doesn't make sense to me.
If you install features over time, it's because you want to use them, if you want to use them, it's not bloat.
If it's to try it, and it's not for you, why not just remove the package again?
I can't say for others, but my system definitely does not get bloated over time.
On the contrary, I remove preinstalled features I don't use, when I get tired of seeing them updating.
Bold of you to assume people have perfect knowledge of what they installed and what they use and how much.
I was messing around one day with homebrew, chatgpt and a mapping progr, i somehow managed to create a hidden 225gb folder on my desktop lol
I just copy and paste things into the terminal until whatever I wanted is installed and running.
Same. Also if I can't get it to work I rarely put in the effort to uninstall all the bits I've added.
I feel targeted
I spent 3hrs yesterday troubleshooting an issue that ultimately came from forgetting I had installed firewalld in addition to ufw, had both enabled, and obviously their rule lists were seperate.
I almost certainly got there by doing a tutorial "brain off"
This is the way
Time for me to be that person
Well, with nixos you can just use your config and set up almost everything declaratively and as long as you keep it tidy, have a good overview of your system:)
Looking at my packages a few months later:
What in the heck is a samba?
Are you saying you don't know when you install additional packages?
How does that work?
I check out apps from flathub periodically and then subsequently completely forget about them. That may or may not count as bloat depending on how you define it
I am fine with installing apps I use or want to try. I'm also okay with forgetting them and wasting the space honestly. All of that probably would take me ten years of "bloat" to match windows out of the box so yeah that's not bloat, that's just making software decisions. This post is really criticizing people for installing software? Wtf
Yes, you should not install packages and this incident will be reported.
Hmm ok
This is a certified hood Klassiker. I keep all my important files on external disks, so I can reinstall easily. I tried other distros that "fix" this issue, but I'll never leave my true love Arch again (dont tell my wife, I don't want to sleep on the couch again).
Separate / from /home into separate partitions. When you reinstall, set to overwrite /, but leave /home intact or set it to be /home for the new install without formatting. It will reinstall your distro but keep your data.
The main reason I don't do this is that I don't want to keep any executables / potentially malicious, or files prone to exploitation around. So I like to fully format my main SSD. Yeah, it's a bit paranoid, but I still prefer it. Thanks for the tip, tho. I think it's helpful for alot of people.
You do you, of course. But, I think that combining the approach of immutable distros to either case would be a great way to add some security. Even if nothing is ever 100% safe, this would be very robust. Or, even without an immutable distro you can do Qubes or just any sandboxing (e.g. bubblewrap) to open documents and files.
In any case, being paranoid certainly is an elegant sport. Perhaps even more than golfing (:
Too late, she saw distro on your collar.
Solution: atomic distro
I actually use NixOS, but my configuration also accumulates packages I will no longer use. Even worse, these packages will be reinstalled wherever I use that config!
Use nix run/nix shell and only add to the config when you've used that a lot for the same command.
Then clean up the config....someday.
You can get rid of them very easily π You could also have a base config and an extended config
You can try deleting old profiles and then garbage-collect the installation, only the last generation will remain and you'd get your space back.
Install comma, and run commands without installing
You can try deleting old profiles and then garbage-collect the installation, only the last generation will remain
NixOS user here. This doesn't come out of the box, but I append a comma before the command I want to run without installing, I can run the command without installing.
Yes it's technically downloaded (if not cached there already) in the nix store, but this is (optionally automatically) cleaned up regularly, for store items that doesn't have a generation (profile, think version of your configuration) that depends on it.
Out the box, you can run a command that opens a shell up with the packages you specify, but comma uses a database to know the executeable names for packages (you get to pick if multiple matches), similar to the command not found function in other distros.
Sorry for hijacking your comment, just wanted to say something cool about a cool distro, which isn't suitable for everyone, but I hope that can improve in the future because nixos is niceos
That doesn't stop you from accumulating flatpaks and such
if i package i want to install has more than five dependencies, i don't install it; who can keep track of all that :3
That's what package managers are for π€·ββοΈ
as usual, nix fixed this (kinda)
this is why i moved from Arch to NixOS. now i know what system packages are installed and can even leave comments in the config to remind myself what the heck cyme does, for instance