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Red meat has a huge carbon footprint because cattle requires a large amount of land and water.

https://sph.tulane.edu/climate-and-food-environmental-impact-beef-consumption

Demand for steaks and burgers is the primary driver of Deforestation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-beef-industry-fueling-amazon-rainforest-destruction-deforestation/

https://e360.yale.edu/features/marcel-gomes-interview

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2023-06-02/almost-a-billion-trees-felled-to-feed-appetite-for-brazilian-beef

If you don't have a car and rarely eat red meat, you are doing GREAT πŸ™ŒπŸ™Œ πŸ™Œ

Sure, you can drink tap water instead of plastic water. You can switch to Tea. You can travel by train. You can use Linux instead of Windows AI's crap. Those are great ideas. But, don't drive yourself crazy. If you are only an ordinary citizen, remember that perfect is the enemy of good.

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[–] backgroundcow@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

No shade on people trying to make sustainable choices, but if the solution to the climate crisis is us trusting everyone to "get with the program" and pick the right choice; while unsustainable alternatives sit right there beside them at lower prices, then we are truly doomed.

What the companies behind these foods and products don't want to talk about is that to get anywhere we have to target them. It shouldn't be a controversial standpoint that: (i) all products need to cover their true full environmental and sustainability costs, with the money going back into investments into the environment counteracting the negative impacts; (ii) we need to regulate, regulate, and regulate how companies are allowed to interact with the environment and society, and these limits must apply world-wide. There needs to be careful follow-up on that these rules are followed: with consequences for individuals that take the decisions to break them AND "death sentences" (i.e. complete disbandment) for whole companies that repeatedly oversteps.

[–] JaceTheGamerDesigner@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

We could really use a movement to get more people to try adding beans, peas, and tofu to their grocery list. I wasn't able to stick to not eating meat, but sticking to eating less meat by adding alternatives to my grocery list turned out to be quite easy.

I gonna be honest: Tofu is a completely underrated food. If done right it tastes absolutely fucking awesome. You can also put it onto bread and there are plenty of different flavoutlrs that you can easily buy in a supermarket.

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 5 points 23 hours ago

This needs to be normalized by calories. Soymilk and soybean oil shouldn't be that far apart.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I've got a special trick where I can make pretty much the entire internet rage at me. Check it out:

I'm vegetarian.

[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine how being vegan makes you the most horrible pariah. Change of diet was not difficult at all, but I wasn't quite prepared for the social consequences.

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[–] drsilverworm@midwest.social 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The single best thing you can do for the climate is not existing. The next best thing is not having kids. The lifetime of consumption of a person is out of the equation without that person. Until we figure out how to live sustainably on this earth, overpopulation is a real problem.

Edit: To be clear, I want you to still exist with us in this world. Especially since I don't believe in any kind of afterlife. I'm just stating a tough truth with no clear action statement, besides maybe figuring put how to live truly carbon-neutral. Some things are just a catch-22.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

You first, buddy.

If not, this is just a slippery slope argument to "those other people shouldn't exist/have babies". That's just the door to eco-fascism.

[–] drsilverworm@midwest.social 1 points 15 hours ago

I'm not calling out any single group, but speaking broadly about all humans. How does that jump to "those other people"?

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[–] Tautvydaxx@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Are bilionairs white meat?

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[–] Sniatch@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Eating meat also means lots of animals have to suffer just for yout pleasure. I know people get triggert real fast if you mention how bad eating meat really is. It's like a drug for some people.

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[–] Echofox@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

And not having any children!

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Beef is overrated. Pork, poultry, and wild caught shrimp are where it's at.

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