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[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (15 children)

American manufacturing seems very incapable of change. If things worked this way for decades, why change it? Meanwhile the world moved on and they ask themselves why doesn't anyone wanna buy american...?

[–] atk007@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You think Americans can't change, just look at German Automakers. They are stuck in Perpetual denial. VW only moved electric because of the massive diesel scandal, otherwise they also would have been like every other car manufacturer.

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[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 96 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Newsflash: American car manufacturer says "Our cars are crap and overpriced"

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 83 points 3 days ago (10 children)

If you're one of the largest and oldest car manufacturers in the world and the most "innovative" thing you've managed to do in the last 20 years is rebrand Buick into a young family brand, then you probably need some good competition.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago

Don’t forget the courage to not support CarPlay/Android Auto … just stupid.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (7 children)

American cars have sucked compared to Asian cars since the 1970s. I don't understand why people are acting all surprised that this is true in respect to BYD. Sure in the past products designed in China were stereotyped as poor quality knock offs of western designed goods, but in the past decade Chinese engineers have increasingly proven themselves as perfectly capable of making solid, innovative designs that improve upon those of their competitors. I think it's kind of fucked up that everyone is so suddenly upset about China's role in the world economy since everyone was completely fine using them for cheap labor over the past several decades and are just mad that Chinese companies are beating them at high skill labor and technology. Chinese companies do have an "unfair advantage" given how much they are backed by the Chinese government but American companies receive all sorts of money from the government for all sorts of things as well.

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 30 points 3 days ago (18 children)

I don't give two cents for the american auto brands but spare me the drama: try and make a proper car.

Looking at Ford: try importing a few models from the european line and offer it in the states. Small, economic, somewhat reliable, fuel efficient cars.

Stellantis has a slew of models that could be brought into the american market. They make good cars.

And I'm willing to bet GM as a few models they build and market overseas that would be guaranteed sucesses.

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[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago

The number 1 electric car company, they passed Tesla recently

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[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So when can we stop with this "free markets" nonsense in the third world aswell??

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There hasn't ever been a free market. Its a captive market. When you can only succeed by denying a competitor into a market, you prove that. They refuse to rise to the challenge because they don't have to.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 51 points 3 days ago (40 children)

I am pretty sure there is some financial fuckery going on with BYD. My parents own two, and they are very nice, but way under priced compared to every other EV manufacturer.

Can't prove anything of course, but there is something odd going on when everyone else is 20-30k more expensive.

Hard to feel sorry for GM though, they suckled at our governments (Australia) teet for decades before giving up and leaving entirely. At least if BYD is being propped up we are at least getting good cheap cars from it.

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[–] MrSilkworm@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Former GM Executive: BYD cars are better and cheaper than American. If we let BYD into the U.S. Market, we wouldn't be able to be greedy and enshitify our products any more, which would end up destroying american car manufacturers. FTFY.

P.S. Actually the average american would be benefited from that

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[–] wosat@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (45 children)

I don't disagree with the criticisms of American cars -- overpriced, uninspired, unreliable, over-engineered, etc. -- but to everyone saying "we should just compete", do you realize the realities that Chinese workers experience? Have you heard of 996? It's shorthand for a common work schedule in China: 9am to 9pm, 6 days a week. Benefits that are common in the U.S., even in non-union shops, like retirement plans, PTO, worker's comp, and overtime pay are rare. So, yeah, things can be made much cheaper if you are willing to feed your workforce into the grinder.

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

First the enshittified the food

Then the health care

Then every consumer product

Finally they enshittified the nation itself

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Meanwhile, instead of trying to compete they cripple all EV advancement to make a quick buck on fossil fuel.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (21 children)

Maybe the USA should heavily invest in the industry of the USA, just like China does, in order to keep up? No, then USian companies would have oversight & have to meet expectations, and we all know that they wouldn’t want that.

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