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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I've said (and read) it before: the concept of a great search engine is exactly at odds with advertising. A good search engine gives accurate results fast, while the purpose of advertising is to show users what advertisers pay to show them. In other words, it's the difference between showing users what they want to see, versus showing users what advertisers want them to see.

Google knows that the more irrelevant results it returns, the longer you spend looking, which translates into more opportunities to show ads.

[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've just done the same search as in the article on Chrome, Firefox and DuckDuckGo

Google served 5 ads before showing me M&S' website

DDG showed me an ad for Temu then M&S' website

Firefox showed me no ad, thanks ublock, and straight to M&S' website

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Firefox isn't a search engine, though?

[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What search engine were you using on FF?

[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Google but with ublock and ghostery

[–] MyPornAlt@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

UblockOrigin recommends against using ghostery.

[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I like ghostery's handling of cookie banners though...

Edit. Oh, the easy list thing does that anyway. Thanks

Edit 2. Ghostery is better at cookie popups

[–] GeekyNerdyNerd@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

Google knows that the more irrelevant results it returns, the longer you spend looking, which translates into more opportunities to show ads.

Which is ironic, as Google only managed to get as far as they did by doing the exact opposite in an era where Alta Vista and the small handful of other OG search engines were focused on maximizing revenue via ads.

Google has become that which they sought to destroy.

[–] Gyrolemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If its free you are the product.

[–] MyPornAlt@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 years ago

And if you pay for it, you’re still the product…. Because it’s 2023 and fuck the consumers.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

from the company that now completely ignores all the search syntax they trained us on – when -, +, "..." actually meant something

[–] deranger@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Are you kidding me? What the fuck

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago

Google always seems to default to thinking that I am looking to buy something. It's very nauseating. This is what Google shopping was supposed to be for. Search should be completely separated from shopping.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cory Doctorow’s post this morning – Google’s enshittification memos

“Google search is so bad you might as well ask Jeeves.”

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

I'd fucking love for altavista or ask jeeves to come back and put the screws to Google.

[–] CosmoNova@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

Google‘s ‚auto complete‘ is driving me nuts sometimes and it‘s also prevalent on Youtube. I mean just scrolling through completely unrelated suggestions in Youtube‘s search results tells you how little they care to show you what you actually want and rather something that makes them more money one way or another. But the direct fiddling with actual search quarries is just malpractice for a search engine.

[–] sheepishly@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

I hate Google

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

that's part of the reason I rarely use Google anymore

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Deebster@lemmyrs.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As I was reading the article, I was thinking how glad I was that I switched - I am on the yearly plan now because I'm not going back to "free" search engines.

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago

I'm on the yearly ultimate or whatever they called it. My wife is interested too, but they don't have an equivalent to the ultimate in the family package (yet), so she just sticks with bing.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

When I first switched off gmail there started to be a ton of stories that talked about Google doing terrible things with gmail. Now that I've recently given up Google search I'm seeing stories like this.

Either I have Spidey-sense for Google's skeletons getting exposed or it's that thing where you buy a car then see the same model everywhere. But in my case it's like I sold a car and now see the same model everywhere, on the side of the road with the engine on fire.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Google was always like this (ok maybe not in the beginning but for the last decade at the very least). For some reason now, more media sources started writing negative things about Google, so it seems they are worse now, but they are just as they always were.

Before you had personal blogs saying the same thing but people don't take those as seriously.

Maybe Microsoft started paying media sources to finally make a PR push to limit Googles enormous power. Microsoft wants to to the same thing though.

[–] Caketaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dunno about you, but THIS Queerie is trying their best to de-Google.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

I use the perplexity app now. It's okay.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

And the shitification is confirmed.