Electric Vehicles

Does this account for the entire production line and recycling after? Or just directly emissions from the vehicle itself

This is the entire point of the article and study?

I agree that we first need to reduce and reuse, but claiming that mining for lithium in and of itself upsets the benefits isn't fair either. It's not like oil extraction and transportation is somehow without environmental consequences, for animals and for humans. Those should not be ignored either!

Yes, we need strong protection for vital habitats, but that mean we need to use the last intrusive first, not that we shouldn't. Because continuing using diesel in our cities will poison everyone that lives there as well as the rest of the planet!

At the end of the day the environment which was saved due to not going for the lithium might die anyway because of the extra heat in the slightly longer perspective...

It's absolutely not considering the consequences of the heavy metal mining that is required to produce those massive batteries. It also totally ignores the problem of how to dispose of, reuse, or recycle those old batteries once they can no longer be effective in your vehicle.

You've answered your own question while it's still relevant. But wow, is it tiresome to repeat the same things.

1. Heavy metal mining is a short-term thing, and you already know about the carbon batteries that's replacing them.

2. Need more lithium and also have a growing junk stash of tons of lithium batteries full of .. lithium? Take a minute ... see if you can get there.

A lemmy user emailed Slate about tracking and data collection, and they responded that the Slate will have no wifi or tracking capabilities.

Also @ptc075@lemmy.zip

The upcoming Slate pickup claims to be focused on being a simple EV that a regular person could repair. It doesn't even have a stereo. That said, I have not specifically seen a guarantee that it doesn't have an internet connection.

https://www.slate.auto/en

Dacia Spring, VW e-up, Tesla Roadster (first gen) and compliance vehicles such as e-golf.

Probably a better idea to just pick one you like and then figure out how to disable any wireless communication. But this could really in warranty and charging issues.

The new Slate truck is the only one I can think of (not currently in production).

Some cars have a SIM card which you can remove.

I used to look forward to get a car with screens and cameras and beeps and bops. When i had one that was still pretty dumb for todays standards, i hated it. Oh the board computer stopped working, cool, no navi, no music and no more climate control for you and don't even mention how much a new board computer costs, that is still old and not better than the other one. I had to get a new car last year after not owning one for two, my car is now from 2004 and it's honestly just nice. Not a single button on the seering wheel, no touch screen. The only beeps it makes is 1. Handbreake 2. Seatbelt and 3. Light was left on. It's absolutely glorious

Mitsubishi made one but it was a glorified golf cart.

You could do a quick comparison with the kgCO2e/kWh of each grid. I believe Germany recently transitioned to natural gas from nuclear, so they probably have higher grid emissions than you'd expect.

Just electrify one of those then.

I mean, if you're driving that everywhere, there's some problems, but I imagine you probably have a second car for practical stuff, which can be electric...

That's fine. Drive your Lincoln all 50 miles/year you drive that car:). That's a non-issue in the grand scheme of things. Then you drive your electric to and from work and all other boring trips, or trips where you need a car you are certain not to break down. I hope you enjoy your fabulous car😊

Why would you want most electric cars to drop their looks to that level? sorry .. I'll see myself out ..

There are workshops taking out the engine and putting batteries and electric motors into those cars. Especially for a massive car like a Lincoln Continental that is relativly easy.