Really sad, I can recommend tidal though
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Qobuz is awesome and still 100% french. Also the platform which pays artists better then spotify
Thanks, I'll prefer Bandcamp.
Now seriously: Does Qobuz have a equal catalog to Spotify and a bigger/more mainstream catalog than Bandcamp?
Yes, Qobuz is significantly more mainstream than BandCamp. I don't know if the catalogue is on par with Spotify or AM or whatever, but most popular music is on it.
Bandcamp is like an indie zine that occasionally ships with a burned CD from a local band that has to live in the same rented house with no A/C and a half empty bottle of makers mark in the fridge.
Qobuz is a record store.
Holy shit 😂😂 Accurate
Good to know.
Didnt get that impression from Bandcamp but maybe that depends on the artists you listen so.
I'd say I get the impression way more with Soundcloud.
you guys need to understand that there are no goodguy rich folk
YSK he's ukrainian and has since decades lived in the west, US/Shitrael.
He's a jewish zionist POS.
So he's a western oligarch, but don't let facts keep you from blaming 'the Russians'
YSK that he grew up in Yaroslavl, Russia to Russian-speaking Jewish parents. Calling him "Ukrainian" just because he was born in Odesa during the Soviet Union is misleading. He had/has close ties to the Russian state and became wealthy off of Russian oil and aluminium deposits in the 90s.
So yes, you can blame "the Russians", but you should rather blame the system.
He emigrated to the US in 1978.
He has dual US/UK citizenship,like many horrible zionists. Studied at Columbia.
"became wealthy off of Russian oil and aluminium deposits in the 90s."
Like many western oligarch who leeched the ex-soviet states under Gorbachev and Yeltzin, the sell outs.
These are facts, completely ridiculous to demonise Russia for this american-brit POS just bcs he has Russian roots.
" but you should rather blame the system."
What system?
If you mean the US/UK horrible imperialist and colonial warmongers and genocide supporters causing misery in the world then yes.
Glad they are circling the drain, their time is over.
You can cry about evil Russia, China or whatever, that won't change reality.
You know what's completely ridiculous? Your black or white view of the world. Reality is that there is no benevolent state or any kind of financially succesful entity that isn't built on some form of exploitation. The Western system is evil. So is Russia for sure. China. UAE and the Saudis. You have India now rising by building strong ties with USA and Israel. There's no geopolitical force that's built on good. That you're incapable of realising that and just go "West bad so everyone else good" is quite telling about you. Besides, Russian Jews - strongly overrepresented in the oligarchs statistics - traditionally have strong ties to the Israeli state and Zionism. Russia's - like everyone else's - current interests are only based on what they perceive to be the most gainful. If Putin could've benefitted from siding with Israel instead of the China-Iran-Assad axis he would've done so immediately. To even suggest that Russia is anti-Zionist out of benevolence is insane.
Besides you now say he has "Russian roots" but right before you were attempting to convince people that he was "Ukrainian". So
There is no discussion which one is the evil one.
The US (and vasals) with it's eternal wars, meddling and regime changes, 800 bases around the world threatening their enemies.
Or Russia, that had no choice but to react against NATO and their expansion right up to the border with the inevitability of nukes too close to defend against.
Oh no, they're so horrible!
Really give it up, the majority of the world doesn't give a fuck about the western russophobia and knows who's at fault.
Asia, Africa or S-America know who to xhose between Russia, China or 'the west' who have done nothing their entire existance but colonialism and leeching.
Now go cry somewhere else, you bore me and haven't got a leg to stand on.
Might as well be shilling for Shitrael, which I also have no tolerance for.
Blocking you.
Don't you tell me Russia hasn't been waging wars. That's an insane statement. Even looking past Ukraine, since the breakdown of the Russian Empire 2.0 (aka the Soviet Union) Russia has invaded Georgia twice, Transnistria, Chechnya twice, and Dagestan, as well as having upheld Al-Assad's regime - don't tell me that guy isn't evil even if he stood up to Israel - and are now heavily involved in Burkina Faso, Mali, and the CAR. Now do you want to talk about all the shit Russia got up to between 1920 - 1991? Or the countless genocides of the Russian Empire as well as the continuous oppression of ethnic minorities in the Caucasus and Siberia, including using them as human meat shields in Ukraine?
The West deserves hate, but so does Russia. Don't be a tankie idiot. No one is choosing Russia because Russia isn't that important anymore. Others are choosing China and that makes sense.
Please just tell me that Qobuz is fine. My last straw before going back to piracy.
@Lanske@lemmy.world: Qobuz is awesome and still 100% french. Also the platform which pays artists better then spotify
Bandcamp?
(ignoring the fact that it was owned by Epic. But they still do Bandcamp Friday)
I'm trying to focus on European offerings. Bandcamp is based in California, I think. Recent months have shown that US companies cannot be relied on.
Interesting and mostly agreed.
Get Tidal instead
Or better yet buy directly from the artist
I don't understand the mental gymnastics some people do to reach the conclusion that piracy is the "ethical thing" to do. What about the artists? How is that any better for us? If you all pirate then we go from getting peanuts to getting nothing.
In fact, piracy sort of birthed streaming in the first place. There were Limewire and Napster, then streaming platforms came along to basically legalize piracy... Hell, the Spotify CEO used to be the CEO of uTorrent
People used to upload pirated music to YouTube. So you know what happened? YouTube came up with their song detection system that now pays artists when their track is streamed, even if it was uploaded by someone else. Even if it plays in the background of a vlog. See what I mean? Legalized piracy.
PS: I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed
Tidal is ok, its american though and they suck.
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I use refreezer lol
Since we are on this topic I would incentivise everyone to take a look at resonate.
They are, AFAIK, the only music streaming service where artists, workers and listeners are owners (aka it's a cooperative)
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None of the online music streamers are ethical. Every single one, to varying degrees, robs the artists and enriches their CEO's and shareholders.
Do the ethical thing.
Don't use them, and instead, use a Youtube-to-MP3 converter and steal the music.
I dunno, Qobuz seems pretty fucking solid, and still allows for purchasing your music directly in FLAC and other formats. What drama is there about them?
Bandcamp is pretty good, though. Especially on Bandcamp Fridays where all the profits go to the artists. Plus, I like getting FLACs.
Problem with Bandcamp is they got bought out, first by Epic Games and then by Songtradr, and each time it's gone through enshittification. Bandcamp Fridays used to be a weekly thing but got changed to quarterly with little announcement, and then half their staff got laid off to pad the bottom line. Even with all that they're better than the alternatives, but they're still on a decaying trajectory.
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Uuuugh shit, I liked Deezer. :(
Ok, so, Qobuz then?
Edit tired of jumping ship all the time. Going to try going back to local rips and jellyfin server.
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I've been buying mostly mostly from Bandcamp. It's worked out well. I have a big library, and the people making music got paid.
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