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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What???

They feel duped? We been knew Trump was in kahoots with him. He's a sexual predator, a liar, and a shitty business man. I feel like saying you've been "duped" shifts blame. You were not duped, you just didn't realize you'd have to suffer with the rest of us, LIKE WE FUCKING TOLD YOU. Admit you made a selfish, shitty decision and do better.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

If their only source of media was manosphere podcasts or FOX News, I can absolutely believe they were duped. It still doesn't absolve them of being regessive dumbasses that lack critical thinking skills, though.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 6 points 2 days ago

USA today is a rightwing propaganda rag and this is rightwing propaganda

"my peers aren't country club conservatives" shut the fuck up you are literally writing for the largest syndicated colonial newspaper network

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This was all public knowledge before the election.

But I guess you didn’t hear about that on TikTok and YouTube shorts.

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, depends on the almighty algorithm overlords. People were making Project 2025 PSAs left and right, and I definitely saw some YT shorts talking about the evil shit GOP and Trump would do. Cause I'm blue and YT knows (or at least thinks ) I want to see and agree with that stuff. A Gen-Z who watched Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate all day isn't gonna get that. I hate and have never used TikTok, but we can make a similar assumption for them. Anyway, I'm more pissed at my friends who sat on their ass and didn't vote (even after I told them that's upsetting), who have recently said "I wish I voted."

I guess we need to learn how to convince those around us to give a fuck. I wish I was more charasmatic...

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

42 year old millennial here…

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's no reason to believe trump would do anything good. The republican party is just full of bad ideas. What kind of false reality are these people living in?

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is their after the fact justification. You are entirely correct. Anyone with functioning eyeballs and the ability to put two brain cells together knew he wasn't going to drain any fucking swamp or be making any fucking thing better.

2016 Trump voters I will give benefit of the doubt to. If you voted Trump in 2020 you knew what you were getting, and if you voted Trump in 2024 you even had a road map.

There is nothing I want to hear from these apologetic Trump voters besides "Yes, I was some combination of racist, hateful, and ignorant, and now the entire nation is suffering for my bullshit." There is no way they didn't know what they were subjecting the nation to, and I will not pretend that somehow they didn't. Don't want a Trump voter as a friend, and wish I could boot them out of my family. I sure as hell am not going to entertain their fucking platitudes.

Trump declined to release the Epstein files because he said it would falsely incriminate innocent people. But that has left them wondering: Is Trump just the swamp?

YES, FUCKING YES. HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE SWAMP. And the fact that this is the moment where you are wondering this proves my point above. Everything up to now was all good.

This whole turnabout is a personal one for my friends. They didn’t like Trump because he was a Republican; they liked him because he would be a “disrupter in chief.”

TURNABOUT??!! He has been the same person literally the entire time.

OMFG I think I have just realized. The only way out of this is if we all pretend we swallow this bullshit from bashful Trump voters, isn't it?

Look at this shit:

They wonder: Is Trump just a showman who lied to us and deceived us this whole time?

Entirely too credible, too wide eyed. This article and articles like it are just another kind of ruse. One where we all pretend we haven't learned something dark and horrible about 77 million of our fellow citizens, so we can throw them a bone after what they have voted in for all the rest of us. 🤮

Where do they go now? One obvious possibility is to the Democratic Party. But Democratic leaders would need to do more than act like they care about people like my friends. They need to offer a clear, transparent alternative that can successfully brand Democrats as more honest and authentic.

So the problem isn't Trump folks, and it's not Trump voters, either. Republicans? Nah. It's actually Democrats. Huh.

Eli Thompson is an 18-year-old

Oh Jesus. The author thinks all this is normal.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Hey, if you support a syphilitic pedophile rapist lying grifter, you deserve all the shit he unleashes on you.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Yup Gen Z men are kinda naive.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Vanishingly small percentage of fucking idiots later realize they've been conned. Film at 11.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My peers are not your rich country club conservatives. They are scrappy guys who liked Trump because he wasn’t polished or predictable. To them, he was a rebel outsider who would fight “the swamp” with all he had. I remember heated lunchroom debates where they’d argue about whether or not he could truly upend our system and its backers.

The danger of neoliberals is they took money from trump and many just like him, and in return turned the Dem party into a pile of dog shit that didn't actually help anyone that wasn't wealthy

That inevitably ends with the neoliberals middlemen getting cut out, and depressing Dem turnout so much Republicans win.

The voting members of the DNC learned their lesson, they elected a chair with a proven track record of fair primaries and not standing in the way of the party's own voters.

That's why billionaire owned media keeps telling Dem voters to give up on the DNC.

The billionaires are scared of what happens when Dem voters get to pick their own politicians

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[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Their idea of swamp was just democrats/city folk. They would just never believe that putting in their people would be just as swampy if not worse.

They might not like the Epstein shit but they’re not asking for all those bureaucrats and judges he placed to be removed. They’d still vote for Rubio, or whatever racist corpse gets the next nomination.

Glad they’re free of this particular blindness but they’ve got a long way to go.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tired of hearing "Demographic Group X did Y" when these analyses fall apart at the state line.

There's no chromosome that explains your vote.

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Speak for yourself. I got more chromosomes than any of you motherfuckers.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

Oh noez, are a lot of our voting public stupid fucking idiots? What a shocker.

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