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[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 84 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Take over? Not llms. Destroy the world by accelerating climate change? Absolutely.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get the spirit, but it's capitalism that accelerates climate change. LLMs are just the new blockchain scapegoat.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're both right. Capitalism accelerates climate change but so does the outrageous electricity requirements of LLMs.

[–] Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago

Many human activities cause climate change. LLMs are a relatively new one, and a disproportionate energy user, so it's fair enough to shout about it and try to minimise adoption. Things that are already entrenched like consumer culture or aviation will be harder and slower to undo.

Also, whether it's right or not that capitalism is largely to blame, if you take that to mean that the only useful action against climate change is fighting against capitalism, or let yourself feel like you've 'done your part' by having anticapitalist opinions, I think that's counterproductive.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If it weren't for Capitalism, those LLMs would have been designed with a lower climate impact from the get-go. But since that hurts the shareholders bottom line, they aren't.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don’t forget the damage to the creative industries

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, all those poor scribes and monks who got put out of work...

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People with no clue about AI are exactly why a dumb-as-a-brick LLM could very well end up destroying the world.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, that scenario comes from AI's use in eliminating opponents of fascism

It's pretty funny that while everyone is whining about artist rights and making a huge fucking deal about delusional people who think they've 'birthed' the first self aware AI, Palantir is using our internet histories to compile a list of dissidents to target

Screenshotting for my eventual ban.

[–] scott@lemmy.org 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

AI does not exist. Large language models are not intelligent, they are language models.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This can't be true...... Businesses wouldn't reshape their entire portfolios, spending billions of dollars on a technology with limited to no utility. Ridiculous.

Anyways, I got these tulip bulbs to sell, real cheap, just like give me your house or something.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Remember, investment in LLM infrastructure on the US is currently larger than consumer spending.

And they will cut interest rates soon, so expect the number to go up (the investment number, that is, not value).

[–] Captain_Faraday@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Can confirm, I’m an electrical engineer working on a power substation supplying power to a future datacenter (not sure if an Ai project, there’s more that one). Let’s just say, money is no issue, commissioning schedule and functionality are their priorities.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

It's pretty funny you think LLMs are the only implementation of machine learning

[–] Mesa@programming.dev 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The thing is, AI doesn't need to take over the world if the BiG tHiNkErS are so eager to replace humans regardless of its merit.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

The thing is, if they're wrong, their businesses will fail, and anyone who didn't jump on the hype train and didn't piss revenue away should have better financials

[–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago

It's all about selling the ideology of AI, not the tools actually being useful.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

They will destroy jobs first, then the rest will simply unravel.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's not the "AI" that I'm worried about destroying the world. It's the tech Bros and CEOs who are trying to force it on us all I'm worried about. Cuz I don't trust them to think things through or think ahead.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

not worried about AI taking over the world.

I'm worried that corporate interests are using AI as a mechanism to circumvent our already weak control of the world and enslaving us only for AI to be used inappropriately in ways that further the divide between the wealthy and poor.

I'm worried that these corporate interests are doing irreversible damage to the environment by consuming energy and resources that could be better spent on solving real problems like homelessness, joblessness, healthcare, and hunger.

I'm worried that my kids will grow up in a world where technology has become so toxic to intelligence that they're living in a mashup of Fahrenheit 451 and 1984.

AI couldn't find its way out of a wet paper sack. The maliciously negligent rich assholes that are forcing us to use AI when it's a half-baked pyramid scheme filled with crypto-bros and fascist supporting scumbags -- those guys I'm concerned about.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 6 points 2 months ago

Delicious either way.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 5 points 2 months ago

I've never really liked this meme. I quite dislike AI, but just because your NN sucks doesn't mean NNs or AI in general is fundamentally poor.

I often write very poorly performing programs due to mistakes, lack of knowledge, or just general incompetence. That doesn't mean all my programs perform poorly. It certainly doesn't mean all your programs perform poorly.

"AI" sucks for a lot of reasons, but so does this image.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

A cat identifying as a dog is exactly the same amount of dog as all other dogs.

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

AI will not take over. OpenAI on the other hand...

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago

An AI that plays Elden Ring, I see.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago

I don't think it will take over. I think idiots will deploy ai everywhere and that will create systems that are fundamentally inhumane.

I mean more surveillance, more arbitrary "decisions" by opaque systems. Basically Oppression by lack of oversight and control.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

That's not a dog that's a salad

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Geoffrey Hinton, is worried about AI taking over the world. I wouldn't say he knows nothing about AI...

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago

The current capabilities are only indicative of future improvements. It says nothing about how capable it will be in the far future.