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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 49 points 6 days ago (6 children)

The whole trend of teens rejecting phones for dumbphones is making sense now. If you can't fight big mainstream technology, then fuck big mainstream technology!

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[–] 2910000@lemmy.world 74 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Students who think they are chatting privately among friends often do not realize they are under constant surveillance

This is the problem

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 12 points 6 days ago

Yea, if nothing else hopefully this will make at least a few kids think about online privacy.

[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 18 points 5 days ago

This is also why (I think) that younger people don't like going outside. Cameras are everywhere. There's no privacy. We've become a world of creeps. Not really for the most of us. But if I was 10 years old I'd think everyone as creeps.

Now corporations are forcibly creeping into the classrooms. Yuck!

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 41 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What is sad is that an environment like this ruins someone’s mental health and ironically increasing the overall risk of violence.

[–] belit_deg@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Don't remember whose quote it was, maybe Hannah Arendt, that the real tragedy of tyranny is not when people self-censor what they say out loud, but when this leads them to filter out those thoughts from arising at all

[–] arararagi@ani.social 8 points 6 days ago

That's the surveillance panopticon, they know they are being watched, but not when.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

The world is turning into one giant shitty customer service experience.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 58 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Lots of wannabe authoritarians out there in educationland.

All those decades that the schools just -couldn't afford- more (well-educated) teachers and smaller class sizes. Lots of low-end look-good.

And then along came tech, and lo-and-behold, IT was going to be the savior. Let's buy into that! We may not be able to teach them to read, write or think, but they can learn to kneel!

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I couldn't agree more.

It's fucking pathetic.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Citizen! Good news! Your writings have been randomly selected by Friend Computer for review!

A select team of Troubleshooters has been dispatched to bathe your general area in soothing Raytheon ^(tm)^ Brain Beams until your attitude improves.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

OK FC, come at me! But be warned, I've been armed by Hancock! AND Pink Floyd!

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 36 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We are living in the shittiest kind of cyberpunk dystopia. Can't wait for AI-induced cyber-psychosis once people implant Musk's chips into their brains and give MechaHitler full access to their subconscious.

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[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I can't say for certain because I wasn't given one but I can't imagine me and my friends would have been willing to communicate with each other on devices provided by our school. Even in the early 00s it would have been filled with spyware.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago

I cannot possibly imagine trusting a school issued device.

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[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

“I wish that was treated as a teachable moment, not a law enforcement moment,” said Patterson.

Seems like the Gaggle CEO has a good view. They're still an enabler in these situations. Be it poor guidance or training. With the impact they have, taking responsibility would be tracking and ceasing contracts that do not follow this soft response approach.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Talking about online privacy has become the “safe sex talk” of the last decade or so. You have to keep reminding kids so that it sticks. Nothing you say online is private, it can all be copied/screengrabbed/recorded/photographed and shared by the recipient. What you say, any images you post, etc. On school or work devices they can essentially see most everything, nothing is private. Even if you make efforts to cover your tracks, a truly determined agency with enough resources likely will find out who you are if they want to.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 26 points 6 days ago

More free child labor in jails.

[–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 6 days ago

Thought control

[–] hark@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I was already glad being out of school before widespread take-home laptops and required after-school logging in to check for homework and shit, but this AI-driven surveillance is on a whole other level. Sometimes I'm wondering if it's just me getting old and doing the old people thing thinking things were better "back in the day" but is this current state not objectively worse, being monitored so much and having no way to really disconnect from school?

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Its not a technology issue, its a capitalism issue.

Idealy, people should be able to afford their own devices and just log in via a browser, but capitalism fucks everyone and kids are too poor to have their own laptop and has to use the school-issued one which is obviously managed and surveilled because they can't have you watching porn on it.

Also, #SaveSnowDays, stop forcing an online meet if its snowing and they cant get to school, just let kids have a day off once in a while.

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[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Surprised from that shithole?

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It not just schools. Its everywhere. I was on reddit just last week, talking about when I was 15 and fancying one of my teachers. I got banned for "soliciting sex from a minor"... And whats worse, when I appealed, they upheld it. Some human actually read a comment in which I spoke about when I was 15. And took that to mean I was asking kids if they want to see some puppies or something. The insane online world of the far left and right has fucked us all.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

With you up until bringing the far left into this. What does universal healthcare, trans rights or taxing billionaires have to do with the surveillance state, aside from dismantling it?

[–] prex@aussie.zone 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I would argue that universal healthcare, trans rights and taxing billionaires are not far left, but Im not American.

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

What a great way to prepare students for our AI enabled social media and digital surveillance society. Take note kids, trust no one!

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 19 points 6 days ago

The next few years is going to be like the time Post Office employees were hounded and had their lives destroyed over what was later found to be a software fault and not mass Human corruption, but on a far grander scale.

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I mean pretty stupid to write that in the schools chat app, use signal or shit just regular iMessage

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Anything with a very low rate of true positives applied to a large population is going to have an insane false positive rate. EG a 1 in 7M issue applied to 70M students with a 1% false positive rate would produce 700k false positives. Worse people who are actually planning a school shooting may be more likely to avoid telegraphing their intentions. So you could damage 700k kids futures and traumatize them without even catching many or any of the killers.

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

“Sometimes you have to look at the trade for the greater good,” said Board of Education member Anne Costello in a July 2024 board meeting.

No no no no.

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[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

So the police sexually assaulted a minor. I'm not even fucking surprised anymore, wtf.

[–] Pjonathan@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Some good news here is that if they apply this to society as a whole the jails would be too full, keep saying the no-no words online!

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago

Sounds more like they are maybe using ML classifiers on all the communications they are spying on by conventional means. To me that's not the same as using AI to spy but whatever.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Isn't this the plot of Shimoneta?

[–] Pjonathan@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Shouldn't they have used AI to collect the messages and then have a human manually intervene?

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