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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The other thing to consider, and maybe this is already addressed, is that there's a stunningly large proportion of the population that is not only okay with this, they want it. And it's not a situation where those people who approve or simply don't care are segregated out by regions, they're literally living next doors and up stairs. They're cousins and sisters and fathers and bosses and coworkers and so on. This is not some super easy "why doesn't the larger of the two simply eat the other?" kind of situation, and no matter how hard anybody wants to try and reduce it down to that, sorry, that's just now how things work.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

So more in line with Nazi Germany than confederate 1860s USA

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If the US collapses before I die. I can die happy.

This is an evil country. It makes war on the world. It threatens the world via control of the reserve currency. To say nothing of the abuses it visits on its own citizens.

Total collapse. Balkanization. Don't care how. No expectation of surviving the fall. But as long as it falls I can die happy knowing that life on this planet has a brighter future than it did with the US at the till.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They should just disunite and become 51 independent states. Then they don't have to project their internal differences onto other countries any more.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I agree, Balkanization would be for the best at this point; there's no longer any legal solution

Every state has its own government and the feds have become more trouble than they are worth.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I should add that even if the states get a right to secede, but don't use it, that improves people's lives.

Because the states can constantly pressure the federal government to be nice to the states or the states will secede. This way, the federal government is forced to treat states somewhat better, if it wants to retain power.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Laws don't mean anything any more, so states should just go ahead and dew it regardless of legality.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

if mamdani wins he has the opportunity to do something incredibly funny

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

as long as at leadt one state fully commits to doing the dew. Baja Blast style.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Putting aside reality, the day New Jersey decides to bounce, I will fight for New Jersey. When people ask the general "What are you waiting for," I'm waiting for NJ to declare war on the world.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

without a rallying force, its just sparkling crazed gunman

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Americans don't know how to cooperate, they're raised with a "me first" mentality. They can't fathom the thought of laying down their lives for their countrymen, so unless you propose to them a revolution where every one of them gets treated as the main character and everybody else as the supporting cast, they won't lift a finger.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Also "the fellow countryman" being racist and fully supporting of the whole process doesn't exactly help with motivation.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Also there are those of us who don't see other Americans as countrymen, I am a Californian first American by technicality. I hope to drop shells on Utah one day. Nevada, Arizona, Washington, and Oregon are cool though, Idaho has the potential to be cool if the politicians and zealots were purged Idaho Falls has a great MilSurp store.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Only if we get nuked. It's still continuous from the Bear Flag Revolt.

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[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Listen, at least tear it down for the rest of the world, what you do after that is up to you, but for the love of god just stop the existence of the usa

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A general strike for 2 weeks. Will bring the economy to near destruction and force change

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Tell everyone to stock up on two weeks worth of supplies and look for a new job hoping everything works out? The hardest part is getting enough people to actually commit to it

[–] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago

I'm rapidly approaching the point where I don't care if anyone has a plan or not.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Americans were bred not to fight for anyone except the master. There is no real God(s) here.

[–] willeypete23@reddthat.com 2 points 6 days ago

If I managed to rally my fellow men with out being ~~assasinated by the CIA/FBI~~ commingling suicide, then we would just be ~~bombed out of existence like the the black panthers~~ terrorist combantants.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

"Professionals are predictable but there are a lot more amateurs to account for."

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