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[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 165 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Whoa, wrong way round! The daughters got him drunk on purpose so they could rape him and have his kids.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

And why is he "King" Lot in this? I actually can't tell if this is 7D gigabrain satire or if this comes from some loose recollection of hearing a Bible story 20 years ago.

Edit: also, the image looks GPT-generated. What the fuck is up with the boy's Polnareff-ass head, why is his left leg melting, and how is the dad's left arm wrapping around him?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So in the story where they're hanging out in the cave, his daughters thought they were the last people on earth and had an "obligation"

If you think this gives Lot a free pass, though, remember earlier, when the strangers (apparently angels,) were hiding in his place and the sodomites came out, he offered his own daughters to get raped instead.

Regardless, this entire affair is something that never happened.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I do know the story. Did you mean for this to be a top-level comment?

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

LOL, I was gonna say! King James Version for the purists:

32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

And they started two major lines! Good one girls!

Somehow, this bit was left out of my Sunday school instruction. No idea why.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 week ago

Yeah, sounds more like they raped the dad. Also as another comment pointed out, I don’t recall him being king either.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's his story.

Dude disappears into the desert for years with his daughters and comes back with both of them pregnant. I'm not going to lend to much credence to what he says happened.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The same story says that a bunch of towns people showed up at his door to rape his guests. Lot offered his virgin daughters to be raped instead.

For some reason, Lot and his family were considered the only ones worth saving in that city. But not his wife, because she really wanted to be back there. That's unforgivable.

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Cmon at least get the story right. Lot's daughters got him drunk on wine and raped HIM

Edit: Don't remember him being a King either

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

He wasn't a king.

Also, he offered a group of angry Sodomites his daughters to rape just to get the crowd to leave him and the other dudes alone, because they showed up to rape the dudes because they weren't from there.

After his wife was turned to a pillar of salt, he flaked out of living in a city and moved the family to a cave, where said incest happened.

Ultimately, this is one of those "WTF are people doing taking this literally?" stories. It's not a convoluted story about the real and least lucky person not killed in Sodom and Gomorrah, but a 3-hour movie that should have been 3 seasons of 10 episodes about 1) showing hospitality, 2) if you're living in a messy situation, just get out of there, 3) lessons on genetic diversity among Hebrew elders and leaders 4) "proper subjugation of women!" /s 5) Yahweh hates the gays! ("It's the gays! They're trying to kill me!" -Lot) 6) Vehicle for lesson from unnamed wife about living in the past, and 7) Be careful about stealing the sperm of descendants of King David! Collectors love the stuff! (this is actually a thing in the ancient and modern world. It's all been Jerry Springer all the time since we learned to write down how trashy people are.)

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[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

OP, are we having slop for content again?

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You think I made this shit? Fuck no, I stole this fair and square

Honestly in this case I think AI was a deliberately chosen medium - it's a parody of alt-right memes (if the original creator didn't just outright steal one) and those are AI.

Although it'd be hilarious if an actual artist deliberately imitated AI art.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

“We have slop at home.”

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[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Public sunscreen stations? It's about time! If there's anything I learned from the '90s it's that everyone should wear sunscreen.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Despite being a white guy, I hardly ever wear it. If I'm going to the beach and catching reflections off the water and sand all day? Yeah. Otherwise I can hardly tan, let alone get burned. My little kids are very pale, takes 'em all day to catch a slight burn. Weird.

Despite smoking for 20+ years, I'm fairly wrinkle free at 54! I should look like a Shar Pei. Weird.

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[–] Hazzard@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Risking some downvotes here, but just like most stories, not every character in the Bible is supposed to be a paragon of morality. Just like in any story, people do bad things.

Obviously this post is somewhat satirical, but dunking on something like this just reminds me of book banning arguments, and that general lack of literary comprehension. There's better things to take issue with.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lot of the bible is described as the only moral person in the whole city (two cities actually), the only one deserving to live. If that's not the definition of being paragon of morality, I don't know what is.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the beginning of the story, yes.

Then the story goes on with Lot's wife turning around and perishing for it, and then Lot's daughters get Lot drunk with the goal of getting him to get them pregnant.

And then there's no further judgment about either Lot or his daughters in the rest of the story.

Even contrary: It displays the daughters as having given the circumstances and their actions a lot of thought and makes it sound as a very logical conclusion. And it says that the father was so passed out drunk that he didn't notice the whole thing.

(That's obviously hard to believe when taking it as a factual history, but like the rest of Genesis it's not. The whole first book of Moses is basically the origin myth of the israelites, not a historical record. The general consensus is that Lot never existed, contrary to e.g. David, who is most likely an actual historical person. And since this is just a myth, it's just as internally logically consistent as Harry Potter fanfiction.)

So the whole point in the OP is quite disingenous. Neither did Lot rape his daughters, nor does the text put the blame on any of them and nobody gets called a whore.

In fact, Lot is not a king.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah, that conclusion (in the OP) sounds a lot like some aita commenters who give judgements based on a bunch of assumptions they just made up in their heads. They don't believe the original version where the daughters are at fault, so replace that version with their own and add the discrepancy (that they created in the first place) as another point against it.

It's a fictional story where the daughters were written as villains. Or maybe it was erotica of its time, intended to sell more copies of the Bible or get people in to listen to what crazy shit happened next.

Though I just remembered another part that does really bring the paragon of goodness (and what they thought was good) into question: the city of Sodom was destroyed because the citizens, upon seeing an angel or pair of angels or something, insisted they needed to gang rape them. Lot, in his unquestionable goodness, offers his own daughters for the gang rape instead. So clearly, at best they saw his daughters as his possessions that he could "sacrifice" to do "good", at worst they thought so little of women getting gang raped that it was just an "out" offered to the people that they refused and thus justified their destruction (because a normal gang rape must be fine, but angelic gang rape is something else).

Oh and the call for blind obedience just thrown in when the wife looks back after being told not to and is punished for disobeying.

Lol the story as told is fucked up enough, don't know why anyone feels the need to act like it was based on true events but was actually just a coverup for a different rape.

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[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wasn't his issue that he got so drunk his daughters raped him? Turning that around seems to be horribly along the lines of saying women can't rape men, an issue that is pretty bad in the modern era.

Implying that one can't be moral if one has been raped is pretty horrendous.

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[–] Hazzard@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

"Good" also doesn't mean flawless at all times. Characters can make mistakes and still be "good" without you having to justify everything they've done as perfect.

An even better example is King David, the one and only "man after God's own heart" taking another man's wife while he was fighting David's war, and then arranging his death to cover it up after he got her pregnant.

Arguing that that, or this, is advice for the reader, or meant as an example of something you should do, is a comical straw man. A narrative doesn't usually stop to explicitly label "good" and "bad" for us like children. There's loads to complain about with popular far-right Christianity, why would we invent ridiculous arguments that are easy to debunk and make us look like we don't have good literary comprehension?

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Public sun screen stations? Do those exist?

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes but his name is Don and only applies to kids

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

When did bidets become politicized, that's a new one for me

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tampons and spicy food are the ones that got me, lol.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Some of the most conservative guys I know were talking about their tushy bidets, it was cracking me up. Not sure how that breached their tough guy firewall

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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 17 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Tampons and spicy food is woke?!!

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

"Everything I dont like is woke. The less oi like it, the more woke it is!"

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Godric@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Having a clean ass is for homosexuals and Communists, duh!

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In case people don’t believe this, it’s a real thing. Idiots aren’t wiping their asses because they legitimately think that touching your own ass is gay. And these people are allowed to just walk around freely in the world, no death penalty or anything.

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago

Finding out that eating pussy, washing your hands or ass are all gay helped me come to terms with being a trans lesbian

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's why the only tradesman I know with one is in a union. He's even friends with queer people.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Legit some men think if you even wipe (!!!) your ass, then you're signaling to gay men you're available for sex. Well, at least this can lead to some Darwin awards (normal fecal bacteria can be somewhat nasty, but bacteria in poop that is not fresh is extremely bad).

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Actually, yeah. Raised fundamentalist.

Cats are animals and don't have souls, intensely loving and personifying a pet can be seen as sinful. Also, having pets instead of childen is sinful as you're supposed to be fruitful and multiply.

I'm not sure if there is a particular verse for spicy food, but sobriety in all things. I used to get in trouble for using more than a drop of Tabasco or too much black pepper. IIRC, I got whipped once for too much Tabasco in my grandmother's chicken stew, (it was seen as an insult).

Gotta go. Saying goodbye to Lulu the cat, who's a person. Leaving for a clothing optional BDSM weekend and bringing habanero hot sauce for taco night.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

A Catholic guy I worked with had similar "animals don't have souls" argument, and argued animal abuse laws were bullshit and people shouldn't get in trouble for abusing animals. He had lots of other troublesome options too.

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know we all hate the right, but come one at least do it without the slop ??

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

People who use GPT4o as an "upscaler" by feeding images to it with the "clean up the image" prompt are a plague to the internet...

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Try Greek mythology if Christian myths are too tame.

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[–] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't mean to invoke phrenology but the little girl on the right isn't doing the right any favours.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 5 points 1 week ago

it's her bedtime pancake, don't judge

Her bloodline is as pure as the driven snow there hasn’t been an outsider there for generations.

[–] ike@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Spicy food the hardest burn on here.

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