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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from science.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any sufficient understanding of magic is indistinguishable from science.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, any time there's a story where magic exists and there's some kind of "magic vs. science" conflict, I think, "Magic IS science in that world, because it exists."

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I hate those kinds of conflicts. Magic, whatever force or mystical art it might be exploiting, would indeed just be science to that world.

Science is merely a study of the things that exist in our reality. If different things exist in other realities, the study of those things will also just be science.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

That's also why the concept of something being "supernatural" is nonsensical. If it exists, it's part of the natural world, whether we understand its nature yet or not.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Science is magic to those who don't understand the science.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's still magic. Even the folks studying the cutting edge eventually have to admit 'I don't know past this point.' We just happen to have an explanation up to that point.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That doesn't make it magic.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It doesn't stop being magic just because you know how it's done.

-Terry Pratchett

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't this enough? Just this world? Just this Beautiful, complex, wonderfully unfathomable, natural world How does it so fail to hold our attention that we have to diminish it with the invention of Cheap, man-made myths and monsters?

Excerpt from Tim Minchin's Storm

[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Hey this worlds pretty awesome and beautiful I agree, but imagine a world with all that PLUS dragons! That’d be a cooler world all right.