Sounds like an easy way to make their entire program irrelevant forever.
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Pretty sure giving it to Kissinger did that long ago.
Also Obama
Yeah, being an adult is recognizing that Obama was a great President, but he did not deserve that Peace Prize.
He was a standard neoliberal whose greatest virtue was nearly qualifying for Just Liberal
Genuinely surprised seeing the Obama love here.
I guess the past decade has really made people forget the actually bad things he did.
He succeeded in what he set out to do: give a nice face to American imperialism.
And I admit, Obama had charisma and was a proper statesman, in stark contrast to what came before and after. But most policies, with single exceptions like Medicaid, were standard neoliberal bullshit. And he didn't stop the machine from going to where it is now, which is his biggest failure in my opinion.
So you're blaming Obama for Trump? Seems a bit simplistic.
Blaming only? No. Having part of the blame? Yes.
Obama didn't really change the direction the USA moved because he didn't really help poor people and challenged the power of companies and billionaires. This helped put more unsatisfied people in trumps camp.
The Democrat party's insistence on neoliberalism and active fighting against actual progressivism paved the way for the current state of the country. They are just as much to blame for it as the republican party.
Given that they gave it to Kissinger in the 70s, and then gave it to Obama before he actually did anything just for not being George W. Bush, the precedent would be that Nobels may be dispensed wherever politically expedient.
TBF not being George Bush is very peaceful, in comparison.
Not trying to defend Bush, but https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush
That's one isolated metric. This is probably better than sending an army.
It's a dumb metric as well, seeing as warfare evolves and modern drones were mostly untested before Bush 2.0.
Bush did the beta testing, it worked. Obama continued their use. It's like saying more people used iPhones in 2015 than in 2008.
How is that better. You do realize this is very sophisticated bombing. Would you rather have a guy run into your house or the house of your family or some super sonic mach 3 drone? What kind of contest is that anyway.
I'd rather have neither. I'm just saying some isolated metric doesn't give the full picture.
That's one isolated metric. This is probably better than sending an army.
Sounds like you were saying getting drone striked is probably better, but English is not my native language so you are probably right
You'll end up pink mist either way, but a drone strike can be targeted more precisely, so it's likely to cause far fewer innocent casualties.
A drone strike more precisely targeted than a guy going in? OK interesting. Probably the reason civilian casualties are so low
If I had a gun to my head and was forced to choose whether a ground/army invasion is better than the drone strike, I would choose the latter.
However, I'd prefer neither happen.
Why do you want to die fast and give your life to the enemy like a gift? What is this, I american't anymore
I think it paints a strong picture if you think bombing/striking/whatever other countries is wrong.
That has a lot more to do with the degree of adoption of drones by the military than anything else. They were bleeding-edge technology in Bush's time.
Anyway, the whole Obama/drone thing is nothing but lazy repetition of meaningless talking points.
Kissinger is easily the worst example to give the Peace Prize to. I think Anthony Bourdain wrote about Laos( correct me if I am wrong about the country) that you will wish to beat Kissinger with your bare hands after you have visited the place and see what he had done.
Satire died the day Kissinger was awarded the Peace Prize. Someone said famously as well. Even if Trump gets it, I will still argue that Kissinger remains the gold standard for being bad.
I love the idea of giving Obama a second Nobel Peace prize, just to piss Trump off.
Or one for Michelle, to really yank his chain.
Using the military on your own people should cinch the award.
Efforts? The peace prize is a participation trophy now? I thought they hated that shit lol. Fucking loser hypocrites.
Nobel committee needs to write back and tell them all to fuck off and get real.
A peace prize for WHAT? Exactly?
It's essentially a meaningless gesture anymore. I know ill get hate for this but they gave one to Obama and well in my opinion he hadn't done anything to deserve such a "prestigious " honor other than being the first black president. Meaningless
It should be reserved for intellectuals, artists, scientists etc. The only world leader that deserves an honor such as this would be one that ends hunger or homelessness
No one will stand up to him. They just get in line to Suck The Donald Cock.
Luckily the Norwegian! Noble comitee are not lining up
He can be awarded one posthum if he does the funniest thing for world peace
Does this scenario include a bunker and a Ruger?
If he gets one, will he go away?