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During the agents’ violent attack on a delivery worker Saturday morning in DC, bystanders repeatedly demanded the agents share their badge numbers. One of them—his face fully obscured by a black balaklava—eventually shot back, “Do I have to answer to you?”

“You guys are ruining this country. You know that, right?” one bystander said to the agents at one point during the incident. An agent, ironically clad in a rainbow face mask, replied “Liberals already ruined it.”

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Last week on stage at the Netroots conference in New Orleans, I spoke with Congresswoman Delia Ramirez (D-IL) about ICE: specifically that she believes it should be abolished. It’s a stance that’s considered far left, but after witnessing ICE and other federal agents in DC this week, abolishing ICE should be the baseline Democratic position.

“ICE is a terrorist organization,” Ramirez told me. “It needs to be defunded and needs to be abolished.”

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[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 120 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

ICE is becoming a paramilitary organization, Trump's personal army. It isn't really fulfilling its supposed role for which it was created in the first place.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ICE has a bigger budget than the entire Russian military.

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Send ICE to Ukraine; we can get two birds stoned at once.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think most of them would just fight for Putin.

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[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Right!? It was supposed to be a paramilitary organization that harassed, assaulted, disappeared, and murdered people crossing the border. SMH truly lost their way...

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[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 18 points 1 week ago

Critics have been saying that about the ICE for over 2 decades. It's a force that doesn't adhere to congress but instead only the president, it operates without oversight or courts issuing their warrants. It's literally the modern Gestapo.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

It absolutely is fulfilling the role it was created for. It's just not fulfilling the role that it was stated to be created for.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 100 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What is that agents name and badge number?

[–] griff@lemmings.world 16 points 1 week ago

what does that agent’s face look like?

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The republican traitor filth must be brought low.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This country is going to need a new level of cult deprogramming to get anywhere. I won't see it in my lifetime.

[–] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe this time we hang all of the confederates and not let any live so this shit doesnt happen again?

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Agreed. As seen with my nation and Germany, the Confederates and Nazis went on to raise Klanners and Stormfronters. ICE should be trialed and executed as a class, else they will escape the justice that they deserve. It isn't kind, but necessary.

They chose to embrace evil, and should die because of the sins they have earned.

Apparently, the Nuremberg trials executed less than 210 Nazis. Considering how many Jews and other peoples have been slaughtered, that is a bullshit result. Trial by individual isn't sufficient for institutionalized war crimes.

[–] indomara@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Absolutely. There is a movie about a housekeeper during the holocaust who hid Jews in the basement of the commander's house she worked in. When he eventually found out, she bargained with him, said she would be his mistress if he would say nothing and let them live.

After the war, when the dust settled, the commander was turned away by his wife and children for sheltering the Jews, and it was the Jews themselves he had allowed to live who took him in.

There were many people living everyday lives that had drank the coolaid and saw the extermination of the Jews as absolutely necessary and considered anyone who disagreed a traitor. Those people went on to raise children and teach them that sick way of thinking.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Honestly, it sucks that execution of ICE as a class has to be considered: it isn't unlike the cruelty they inflict on people who didn't deserve to be abused nor killed.

That is where the distinction lies: deservedness.

Advocating for almost the same thing is icky. I cannot be said to be innocent, for supporting this method to end the madness. 😞

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 43 points 1 week ago

Abolishing paramilitaries in all forms should be a baseline Democratic position. It ain't the 1770s anymore.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really don't understand how cons think liberals "ruined" anything. This country could be very great if the cons would stop trying to make everyone's lives miserable by constantly poking their nose where it doesn't belong.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"Things would be better if it weren't for [group], they're the problem, not the rich." It's a lie as old as civilization and conservatives always fall for it.

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[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Hey USA. How's that 2nd Amendment working for you?

I'm still waiting for the trial, where I've agents were gunned down for self defense.

and there will be a trial regarding the right to defend yourself from masked unidentified gangs kidnapping people.

if the decision goes against fascist ideals, then the Supreme court will intervene. and the 2A nuts will suck fash cock and celebrate that it's bad to raise against a tryranic government.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Juvenile. Pissed off that someone might hold them accountable. Not much these people hate more than oversight and someone getting in the way of their violence.

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Meal Team Six is pretty badass with their masks.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ICE is a terrorist organization, but if they aren't going to abolish it then we need to abolish ICE members. One by one by one.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 15 points 1 week ago

ICE is something far worse than that. They're the fucking Gestapo.

[–] xxce2AAb 29 points 1 week ago

A mid-size nuclear powerplant is required to drive the searchlight that'd enable this level of projection.

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How dare liberals encourage education and renewable energy! And infrastructure and foreign trade! And civil liberties and reasonable prices!

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

“ICE is a terrorist organization,” Ramirez told me. “It needs to be defunded and needs to be abolished.”

It's agents also need to be arrested, and put on a trial.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

These guys are total pussies. Either shoot them or unmask them. They are already on camera so swarm them and pull down a few masks. Once you ID a few of them publicly, the rest will drop like flies.

[–] jason@discuss.online 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Could turn facial recognition back on them...

[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

They’re doing that in LA

https://fucklapd.com/

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago (12 children)

And lose your jobs, your homes, and your freedom in the process as you get prosecuted for assaulting federal agents where the authorities have an incentive to make an example out of you to deter future incidents.

I'm not expecting the world to change from holding hands and singing hymns, but insulting people (who already started confronting them instead of just pretending not to see) for not sacrificing more than I'd have to seems rather narrow-minded to me.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He must have left his fedora at home.

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[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Wow that sounds familiar, where have I heard language like that before?

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

I lived in DC for 6 years and always wore my seatbelt. Never had any issues. I doubt a senator would be driving through the areas where you would have an issue too.

[–] HiddenPotential@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Bigotry and lack of decency ruined the country but it was already ruined it was built on blood repe and kidnapping and forced labor

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Ah yes, the proud Patriots protecting you from... your Doordash delivery. Such bravery!

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