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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago

Just putting this out here: You can be anti-zionist, pro Palestine, and not pro Hamas at the same time.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Two words which every internet-using person should know about because they tend to be forgotten: proportionality and sophistication.

Just because there is some element of crime within a specific group within a society, doesn't mean that the solution is to completely exterminate the whole society.

This is what the word "extremism" means - if you're an extremist you find extreme measures at least OK because you've stopped differentiating and thinking about proportions. And when doing extreme measures to a specific group of people (usually a minority group, or even a whole weaker country), then you're right-wing extremist.

You wouldn't want those things to be done to yourself when you're part of a subgroup that's under attack. You wouldn't want to be a victim of extreme measures. That's one reason why these extreme measures shouldn't exist in the first place.

[–] Rudee@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

What does sophistication mean in this context?

Is it to do with creating a more reasonable solution ?

Genuinely asking

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The boomer vibes are strong in this one.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

zionist vibes. The whole argument is, that by supporting Palestine, you must support Hamas, because every last Palestinian is a murdering savage. Which is a Zionist talking point

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The talking Point indeed.

But the rhetorical delivery of an oversimplified and on-purpose misunderstood non-solution seems pretty boomer to me.

Like a crudely drawn cartoon of a smuck father and his vegan daughter where he serves her just a plate of grass while he eats a steak. With a caption like "You said you would rather eat the livestock feed than turn it into meat."

This is not what anyone meant; this is no solution whatsoever, and it's just hostile and depicts the other side as stupid.

yeah true. zionist boomers, the worst kind of boomer

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But I mean the whole thing is just so stupid. I get that some right wingers find contradiction in pride not being popularized in the middle east, but there are pretty obvious reasons for that. Also no one is so stupid as to go up to a terrorist like that. Not even "libtards". Or whatever. The whole picture is just so stupid. Makes my head ache. So stupid.

[–] zeropointone@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Now that's some good quality ragebait. I give it a 9/10. Well done.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Grade-A rage bait.

[–] burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org 4 points 6 days ago

Its important to take a message you don't agree with, reduce it to a charicature, and then evicerate that. You get that gooey sense of victory and you've terminated any discourse or thought.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

You seem too have upset a few people

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh, okay. By all means, keep starving children.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You know, I was pro-palestine and didn't want innocent people to die, but now that I am reminded that some of them would harm me ~~if i colonized them for 70+ years and forced my way into their homes and murdered them~~, now I've changed my ways. Free, free genocide, I guess?

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

im sure they'll stop starving children the same way they stopped bombing hospitals

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Impossible to give the moral high ground to a state perpetrating literal genocide. Impossible to call them civilized even.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

hitler-detector BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who's head? Can't definitely tell.

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

that's the terrorist but unmasked

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] halvar@lemy.lol 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)