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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 73 points 6 days ago (16 children)

Bazzite is not growing because it's immutable.

[–] Thrickles@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 days ago

Angry upvote.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 76 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Go Bazzite, there has been a lot of talk about Bazzite lately, also on YouTube many have been reviewing it, like JayzTwoCents had a feature about it, which probably helped.
I haven't tried it myself, but it's great to see that it's still possible to shake up the Linux community with a new approach.
Congratulations and best of wishes. 👍 🎈

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 28 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I will hypothesize why:

Bazzite is the Trendy Distro Of The Month, like Peppermint or Endeavor or Nobara or a frillion others. CachyOS is apparently next. Nearly constantly, you'll hear about some trendy new distro which is a fork of Ubuntu or Fedora or Arch that has a feature or two targeted at newcomers or gamers, and for awhile it gets heavily recommended on Reddit or Lemmy, then you stop hearing about it forever as the rest of the ecosystem adopts that feature or fixes the thing that feature was meant to be worked around, and then the cycle repeats.

Bazzite is targeted toward gamers, it emphasizes a solid onboarding experience with a configurator to choose/build your install media based on what you want to do with it, do you want a handheld or home theater experience or a keyboard and mouse desktop? Do you want it to boot to SteamOS or to a DE? Which DE? What hardware do you have? So their gimmick is to steer users through the initital config and setup process. Which as gimmicks go, that one is pretty solid.

MEANWHILE

Fedora's Atomic editions have no gimmicks at all. You have to independently learn that immutable distros exist, independently decide you want that, and then go hunting on their website through their godforsaken marketing wank to find it.

Fedora likes their bullshit branding. You go to their website, and there are big buttons for Fedora Workstation right next to Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop. "Workstation" does not mention that it's just the Gnome version. You have to stroll further down, past server, IoT and "Core" versions, to a section that looks visually different labeled "More Fedora Options" including Atomic and Spins. You're a new Linux user, you've just used the OS that came with your computer your whole life, explain to me what the difference between Core and Atomic is and why you should choose one over the other?

The Atomic versions, which is kind of a synonym for "immutable", you click on that, and you're presented with five options: Fedora Silverblue, Fedora Kinoite, Fedora Sway Atomic, Fedora Budgie Atomic, and Fedora Cosmic Atomic Nowhere in its name or description does Silverblue mention that it's the Gnome desktop one. Kinoite starts with a K and also mentions in the description it's the KDE atomic version. Also, "kinoite" is a godawful word, they should have gone with Kyanite instead, which is a different blue crystal. Or they should have just called it KDE Atomic or Plasma Atomic. The others just put the DE's name in the title LIKE A NORMAL PERSON, ROWAN.

[–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 days ago

That's a really dismissive way to say "It's an OS built to fit a demand that wasn't being met by the other distros".

[–] Default_Defect@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

CachyOS is apparently next.

I'd argue that this is already the current trend. I can't count the number of random Indian youtubers I recently got recommended to watch as they glaze CachyOS as the second coming of christ.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 51 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Gaming will always take the lead—gamers are usually quick to chase the newest and shiniest things. Bluefin/Aurora adoption takes a bit longer because developers have to adjust their workflows, and there’s still this odd stigma around atomics. People assume you “can’t do things” on an atomic distro that you can on a traditional one, when in reality it’s mostly the same—just a slightly different approach in certain areas. Like with Nix, once it clicks, the pros far outweigh the cons. Personally, Bluefin has made me a more organised and efficient developer.

I can't upload the images for some reason but here's the current numbers for the ublue spins

  • Bazzite: 26k users -> bazzite.json
  • Bluefin: 1.9k users -> bluefin.json
  • Bluefin LTS: 40 users -> bluefin-lts.json
  • Aurora: 1.3k users -> aurora.json
[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 2 points 3 days ago

Bingo. This is the explanation.

[–] j0rge@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Bluefin/Aurora adoption takes a bit longer because developers have to adjust their workflows, and there’s still this odd stigma around atomics.

Bluefin maintainer here, our target audience are container people, not people who want to adjust their workflows. The people we cater to don't have an opinion on "atomics" because no one's ever heard of that term. They've heard of docker or podman though.

[–] TyrantTW@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

Thanks Jorge the good work! I had been using silverblue for years and now I'm running machines with bazzite, bluefin, and ucore os. I really, really enjoy how easy to manage atomic distros are, and how they steer you towards better practices (in dev and sysadmin) by design. Thanks!

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 6 days ago

Hey, I'm one of those! Started using Bazzite in July, have absolutely fallen in love. My whole gaming library is available, which has been a real first for me with Linux.

[–] todotoro@midwest.social 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I am a container evangelist, I find excuses to convert my jobs into Kubernetes workloads, and I frequently use the likes of podman for one off apps/processes and development. I use Flatpak frequently to isolate dependencies for the likes of Steam and Heroic.

I really wanted to like Bazzite or Bluefin, but I can't deal with the overhead from the rpm os-tree updates. I would frequently notice hitches for my use case (sunshine streaming), and the hoops I had to do to configure Nvidia drivers (for it to then not work as good as other distros) was tiresome.

I went back to Arch (EndeavourOS), and I improved sunshine performance and had a driver that worked with less fiddling.

I'm saying all this because, while I'm glad to see any Linux distro grow, I hope it starts delivering what it says on the tin eventually without compromises that I experienced. Markering on it being immutable and container focused is true, but I dont see the benefit (aside from more stability which as others pointed out, is already stable is most cases)?. Right now, its a simple to configure (assuming most defaults work for your setup) distro that is finding a growing niche amongst some users (obviously by the data shown). And thats good enough for now at least.

[–] brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago (14 children)

Lots of shit-talking Bazzite...

I don't game much but when I do it's on Fedora.

What distro do you all recommend for my Windows buddy looking to switch to gaming on Linux?

[–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Bazzite is the option for Windows converts that want a gaming focused Linux desktop. A lot of people are going to nitpick it to death, because they want "Literally Windows but without Microsoft". Which isn't happening while Linux has the market share it has. You either accept a few annoyances (while advocating for those annoyances to be fixed), or go back to Windows and accept Microsoft's authoritarian control of your computer.

Bazzite is a solid desktop that's going to be really hard for a regular user to break, comes with Steam, Lutris, and Heroic built in, proprietary nvidia drivers installed, and is based on Fedora (Modern, stable, well supported).

The only downside is KDE can be really easy to break if you're a new user unfamiliar with how customizing it works, but if you leave it default you're fine.

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[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

People just don't like it because it's different and uses new tech

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[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Bazzite just works when it's a regular desktop. The HTPC (with steam game mode) one has a major issue that I don't see them even addressing, it doesn't suspend. It goes into a permanent black screen and the PC is still running. Nothing revives it beside a forced reboot. I reported it to their GitHub and got nothing really. I thought it was my hardware, but I had a friend of mine bring his whole tower to my house, we installed bazzite and it did the same thing. His tower has all new AMD hardware. On my laptop, bazzite is solid as hell. Works with zero issues.

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[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 4 points 4 days ago (7 children)

The removal of KDE Discover has me considering going back to plain Kinoite on my HTPC. I figure I can build a sysext with the handful of bazzite bits I actually use and keep the unbutchered plasma experience

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Would you be willing to say more about what you know / experienced about the removal of Discover? Preferences included? I only noticed it recently, been away from things for a bit, and you sound like your brief info would probably be at least as fruitful as the reading I was gonna look for :)

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[–] b34k@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just installed it at the start of the month on an older PC for a console-like experience in my living room. Only 2 issues really have me disappointed (and I’m not sure there’s much Bazzite can do about them)

  1. No HDMI 2.1 support from my AMD card (like seriously, wtf? Had I known that I probably would have dropped a 9060 XT in instead of a 9070XT)

  2. No real wake in controller support for my FlyDigi or Xbox Series controllers. I’ve messed around in udev and found no solutions.

If they can figure those things out, I’d be much more impressed with the experience…. For now it just feels like another FOSS compromise to the product you actually want (PS5 Pro)

[–] stuner@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, the former is not possible due to asinine requirements by the HDMI Forum: https://www.phoronix.com/news/HDMI-2.1-OSS-Rejected The only option is to use DisplayPort instead (or perhaps an adapter).

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Ubuntu used to be one of the best gaming desktops that was still very stable and usable for everything else, but Canonical has been ruining it to make it more aimed at business and making more ways to profit, so Fedora has been filling the gap IMHO. Still some better dedicated gaming build distros, but Bazzite is good at being a gaming distro that works well as a productivity desktop too.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I don’t think Ubuntu is ruined so much as that Bazzite is very focused on the gaming use case and is a better choice if that’s what you want to do. I use Ubuntu and have tried Bazzite (in a VM with an Nvidia GPU pass thru). Bazzite made the Nvidia based install incredibly easy, and is a particularly good choice for VFIO. I personally use Ubuntu specifically because it’s the same OS as my cloud servers. They solve real problems in that space.

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[–] TyrantTW@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Surprised to see it at the bottom of the graph, but for anyone with a homelab uCore is a present from the ~~heavens~~ cloud!

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