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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 80 points 1 month ago (5 children)

And yet I’ve never had an apt upgrade break my whole system.

[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Yeah, maybe I'm just not smart enough but I always have the best luck with Debian/Ubuntu style distros. I'm glad Arch users are happy with Arch, it just doesn't work for me

[–] nomnomdeplume@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

sudo dpkg --configure -a

my beloved

[–] basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Unable to boot after the update. That’s happened to me multiple times with pacman, so I eventually switched to Fedora.

[–] unique_hemp@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago

Jokes on you, this happened to me on fedora with an nvidia gpu.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Debian users:

What do you mean by PPA?

Also: apt-get is intended as low-level APT interface for scripts, just use apt instead. I get why people are confused nowadays, because APT documentation is terrible.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

apt-get is intended as low-level APT interface for scripts

Ah, that's what they call it now.

I wonder to what they degraded dpkg then?

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't dpkg just the program that installs DEB files, without handling dependency resolution?

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[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This meme brought to you by outdated packages in the official repo

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Mfw I get to go through the same yt-dlp steps after a fresh install

[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You ... you understand pacman cli switches?

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, I just hold my y key until there are many many ys.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes. -Syyu is for "Sync (repository action), database update (forced), upgrade packages", in that order (though the flags don't have to be). Doubling a lowercase character like yy or uu is to force the operation. yy in particular shouldn't be needed, as it only overrides the "is your database recent" check. Unless you're updating more than every 5 minutes, using a single y is perfectly fine.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Never had an update break on headless Debian. Even when switching from 12 to 13. That shit is solid.
I'm getting used to arch on my main desktop and I still can't figure out why the hell "sync" is the wording pacman uses for updating or why 'y' is refresh. Sync refresh upgrade my ass. I will admin, it is fast.

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[–] Zanka@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Fedora: sudo dnf update, type the letter y, done.

I don't understand why apt still has update and upgrade as two separate things.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can even add the -y flag to skip typing y. Which apparently doesn't work for pacman judging by the command above

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[–] zewm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I’m more of a fan of just adding the -y parameter to skip the question and go straight to updating. Works with the install command too.

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

uhm, akshually it's sudo nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade

[–] SuppenMartl@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

This is the way.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
nix flake update
nix flake check --no-build
git commit -a
nh os switch

Is the routine I've settled into. Flake update because I use flakes, flake check because it's easier to see any warnings about deprecated options and the like so I can fix them preemptively, git commit after the check to avoid back-to back commits where the second is fixing some issue with the first, and nh because I like the pretty dependency graph and progress bar.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Zypper gang, dup!!
[an hour later]
Done!

(But actually I like it.)

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Fives@discuss.online 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And that’s why I don’t use PPAs, but you do you, I guess…

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[–] Comrade_Squid@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Using Debian as my main laptop distro, I am usually an arch user but figured with it being a light weight laptop I wouldn't need arch, its been fine but installing updates can be frustrating, after a few weeks gnomes appstore breaks, then I need to use terminal to apt update, apt --fix-broken install.

[–] myotheraccount@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't use gnome appstore. It's always broken

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Which Debian distribution are you using, stable, testing, unstable?

I take care of a couple machines for family members. Those have Debian stable with automatic update (unattended-upgrade). I can't recall the system or packages ever breaking. At most users are a bit confused when an update change the UI a bit.

Sticking to stable and avoiding third party repos gives a pretty solid system. Only developers or sysadmins might consider Debian testing. Only people working on Debian itself should use unstable.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago

--noconfirm

[–] Impromptu2599@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Or sudo dnf -y upgrade

[–] pewpew@feddit.it 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's because you have to use

apt

, not apt-get. Yes, there is a difference

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[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

guix upgrade

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago

$ doas apk -U upgrade

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Or the superior and succinct paru

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

sudo nala upgrade

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

topgrade --no-retry --cleanup --yes

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] dyc3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

God this is the one thing I just hate about Ubuntu. I just avoid ppas now

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