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[–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 126 points 1 month ago (6 children)

“the tipping point that makes an Amoc shutdown inevitable is likely to be passed within a few decades, but that the collapse itself may not happen until 50 to 100 years later”

Long enough that everyone who got us into the mess will be dead and won’t have to suffer the consequences or admit they were wrong. 😑

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago

Even if it happened in 5 years, those people would never admit they were wrong.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's on regular people to find their addresses and do what needs to be done.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's why those fucking psychopaths are doing nothing to fix it and are exploiting the drive to do something.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'd put all there kids in a cell until they fixed their families mistakes.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I'll be death too, yay

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

There could be a one-day delay and those responsible would not suffer consequences.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The presumption in their work is that ClimatePunctuation isn't accelerating.

That presumption is pervasive, among climate research.

It's wrong.

The actual speed of ClimatePunctuation is bell-curved, more or less:

  • speed-of-change from the pre-existing Equilibrium is small, at the beginning..

  • speed-of-change increases, to a maximum..

  • speed-of-change decreases from the maximum down to the new Equilibrium.

Obviously, the evidence which keeps falsifying the optimism of the climate-research-field's models is evidence of accelerating process ( the deep East Antarctic ice-sheet being warmed 2x as quickly as models predicted, e.g. recently-published )

That such evidence KEEPS getting in our face, & we KEEP ignoring that we're getting the whole-speed-curve wrong, is evidence that paradigm-bound-thinking is overriding our ability-to-survive.

ClimatePunctuation's still accelerating.

IF the people who reject that are predicting 50-100y before it becomes inevitable that it shuts down, THEN ClimatePunctuation's accelerating is GUARANTEED to produce the result sooner, because they're predicting based on the wrong curve.

It doesn't matter, though: accountability/integrity isn't something that'll ever affect institutions, it's powerless against them, right?

Our kind protects what's most-important, & .. nonaccountability is the 1st thing we protect, before our very lives.

All the last few thousand years of history backs that fact.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, terrible news however on the bright side a bunch of companies and rich old people are making money. All at the expense of our future. /s

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 23 points 1 month ago (31 children)

We haven't even made it to 1 million years, yet it doesn't matter what you think or how you reassure yourself you'll be fine, nature will wipe us and adapt. There's a reason act of nature are attributed to gods

[–] Azal@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago

nature will wipe us and adapt.

At this point I'm just ready for it to hurry up and get it over with.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

"So anyways I started 🔥🧊 🌀🌊 🔥🧊 🌀🌊 🔥🧊 🌀🌊 🔥🧊 🌀🌊 "

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Likely tipping point in the next decade or two but will take a century or more to happen. Anyone taking bets on how long it will be denied for?

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As soon as the ones more powerful and richer than me start doing all at least as much I do I'll try to do more.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Until then, go on king, bring apocalypse ever more closer, one tiny effort at a time. Afterall, they don't want you to survive, why should you

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't worry, you won't even notice the difference when I don't sort my trash like a total pedant.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What the fuck is the death by a thousand cuts, a cut is nothing, absolutely not dangerous, it doesn't make any sence how a thousand of something insignificant can become significant.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A cut doesn't make a different when someone way more powerful and richer already held a gun to their temple and pulled the trigger.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Your honor, in the grand scheme of things, we're all gonna die and some form of disaster is inevitable at this point, so me killing this guy means basically nothing in the cosmic scale.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Hank Green needs to update his recent post

[–] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

how big the water would be after collapse ? what land will be lost ?

[–] ThePunnyMan@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's more than just a water level issue. As I understand it, the Amoc is responsable for warmer water cycling up to the coasts of western Europe resulting in warmer temperatures than they would normally get at that latitude. It would change the temperature and weather experienced there. Hank Green did a video talking about how it could potentially affect Ireland about a month ago.

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