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What I’ve Learned From Getting Transit Wrong (usa.streetsblog.org)
submitted 1 month ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world
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[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Years ago, I believed that if someone drove instead of taking the train or bus, it meant they were rejecting transit. That not riding was an active choice against it.

In my city, it is a active choice. Biking is infinitely more convenient and they choose not to. Every public conversation about my city's transportation needs is absolutely dominated by people who are actively refusing to use anything but a car regardless of how much you explain the problem (the congestion they're bitching about) they are creating.

There was one guy on Facebook who wrote the funniest fucking comment; "If I can't park downtown, I'll just drive to the next city and do my shopping there!" like he doesn't understand he's solving the problem (parking) he's creating.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Years ago, I believed that if someone drove instead of taking the train or bus, it meant they were rejecting transit. That not riding was an active choice against it.

I lived in the capital region for 10 years and met plenty of car owners who took their car from the suburbs to the city and back, every day. There's no reason. We have about the best imaginable* public transport and it isn't too expensive either.

That said I wouldn't hold it against anybody if the use their car for specific reasons like weekly family megashopping, or driving the other way i.e. away from the capital region.

* no, seriously. Fast, often, clean, never too full.

Ok, I looked at the article now. The context of the quote is "being an advocate" and what I basically wrote in my 2nd §. But given the situation described in my 1st §, all reasons given sound like weak excuses.

[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I mean this is pretty obvious stuff. For anyone that didn't read the article:

  • People make choices based on what they perceive as efficient
  • Sometimes you have to educate them about better options than driving
  • Not all transit is good transit

Now one thing that wasn't really addressed, but which should have been, is on-board experience of transit. Qualify of life issues seems silly to a lot of people to spend effort policing, but they matter. Guys on the subway smoking, playing music, smelling awful, etc. Even things as basic as people not taking their backpacks off leading to jostling and crowding. This all matters.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I think people delude themselves about not having poor experiences in traffic. Yes, the asshole is now in an enclosed metal box, instead of one seat away from you on the train with his boombox. But he controls that metal box, and can suddenly incur hundreds of dollars of insurance costs to you.

Where I can see the issue getting emotional and personal is women’s safety. I’m a guy so it’s not something that I can speak to, but I’m aware can affect behaviors on a primal survival level.