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Decentralized social network Mastodon says it can’t comply with Mississippi’s age verification law — the same law that saw rival Bluesky pull out of the state — because it doesn’t have the means to do so.

The social non-profit explains that Mastodon doesn’t track its users, which makes it difficult to enforce such legislation. Nor does it want to use IP address-based blocks, as those would unfairly impact people who were traveling, it says.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 51 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The more interesting question is, who would you arrest? Just ignore the law. It's unenforceable when it comes to the fediverse.

[–] Sprawl@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Those hosting the more popular environments. The posts would live on perhaps but target enough people and it likely becomes too small for them to care anymore, sadly.

[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 3 points 5 hours ago

All the more reason to host anonymously.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, considering it is not impossible to geoblock per instance, they could.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 62 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We need more federation and P2P in everything.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 26 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

P2P! I have been screaming this into every forum at reddit since last piece of shit president was president. See? This is why!

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

What P2P solutions exist that need more attention? I know PeerTube does some neat P2P stuff to keep server load down (if they ever had the traffic...)

[–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

Nostr solves the centralized hosting problem the current fediverse has. It's still being developed, though, and is mostly used by crypto bros at the moment.

[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 3 points 5 hours ago

You can play multiplayer games with LAN support together for free using a program like Hamachi.

Use a free VPN (https://riseup.net/en/vpn) to download the game for free. I usually go for fitgirl repacks if they're available. Then you and your buddies can connect to the same 'server' using Hamachi and play together.

I recommend doing this with the new Halo collection and Baldur's Gate 3 so you can see it's possible, even with new and advanced games.

Brains > wallets, don't be a corporate simp.

[–] ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago

veilid is a framework designed for hosting completely anonymous P2P apps. They already have a chat app reference implementation - (think P2P signal) and there are others popping up like vdrop

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 95 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Would have been the smart move for business, too. Just don't comply until everyone else caves and then sue the state for favoring some businesses.

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

but then they wouldn't get all the user information

[–] Sprawl@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Sadly they were all tripping over each other for a taste of that sweet extortion money.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 254 points 1 day ago (6 children)

There's going to come a point at which the Feds/States will lean on the ISPs to handle the censorship for them. We've had people all over the Nat Sec system staring at the "Great Firewall of China" and asking themselves "Can we get something like this over here?"

[–] hatsa122@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Its already happening in Spain. Everyday there is a football match from the spanish league (thats from Friday to Monday, both included) LaLiga orders the ISPs to shutdown everything that uses Cloudflare under the pretext that the shady websites that offers pirated football use their services, killing easily 1/3 of the national traffic for like 4-6h.

Why the ISPs comply?

  • The biggest ISP of the country (Movistar) also happens to be the main one that showcase legal football.

How is this legal?

  • The judge that authorised this and the president of LaLiga have been friends since forever.

Eventually this will go the European court where they will rule this was illegal and anti-constitutional all along and give a Spain a fine (the the citizens have to pay), and revoke this bullshit, but untill then we are screwed. Nothing will happens to LaLiga, the judge, or Movistar, fucking privileged and corrupted bastards.

[–] Tuxophil@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah, the soccer industry is full of some of the scummiest people on earth.

There's a lot of money to be made off of idiots who don't know any better for doing pretty much nothing.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

TBH, ISP blocking is easily circumvented with DOH

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 24 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

All my IT and InfoSec friends have called me alarmist for suggesting even the possibility of a GFW of America, but every day that passes, it looks more and more likely to happen, doesn't it?

Start practicing circumvention techniques now, y'all, while it's still legal and cheap to do so. Learn amateur radio. Learn Meshtastic. Learn all the different censorship-resistant VPN technology out there. Host your own websites or services for friends, family, or your community. It doesn't make it impossible, but it does make it hard, and fascism is nothing if not lazy.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 36 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

staring at the “Great Firewall of China” and asking themselves “Can we get something like this over here?”

I've just been assuming that was the goal all along.

Fifteen years ago, I said on Reddit, "The U.S. is trying to become like China before China can become like the U.S." Of course, I got buried.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

I've been saying some combination of China and Russia personally. It's easier to parallel now after China took over Hong Kong. Those poor kids fought so hard.

People need to understand the fascists were watching those instances too and they learned from them. The last 15 years have been like a road map for how to handle dissent and protests in a way that keeps you in power.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 73 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

If this really about protecting kids, they could've done opt in blocking at the ISP level. Just a few new fields with ISPs and they have products that can take care of this already.

This is really about tracking every little thing you do online.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

It's never really about the kids.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 42 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Eventually it will be about restricting what we can access on the web.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

It already is. Social media and algorithm manipulation have been an issue for at least a decade. All the stories about algorithm issues in foreign countries makes me wonder if they weren't beta testing.

We're pretty cooked.

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[–] hisao@ani.social 113 points 1 day ago (20 children)

This is why it's perfect time to get some tech literacy regarding tor, i2p, yggdrasil, and shadowsocks. It's not perfect solution to use tech to circumvent restrictions that shouldn't be there in the first place, but sometimes it really comes to that point and it's really nice to have all systems ready!

[–] ezyryder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm making a website to aggregate all of this information. Pro net neutrality, anti censorship laymens guide. Still in the works but its called zoracle.life.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 77 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Arguably though, at some point they'll just say "if we can't read your traffic, you can't use the Internet."

Which still isn't a problem, as I'm sure we can come up with a means to encrypt traffic to make it look entirely legitimate. But it's going to take a while.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (22 children)

At that point people would probably go to a p2p adhoc wireless meshnet to bypass the ISPs entirely.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You mean "at which point, people will just say 'oh, ok'". (Assuming they even notice)

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 40 points 23 hours ago (11 children)

"People" will just comply. Tech savvy people like us are the only ones that could circumvent it

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 38 points 19 hours ago

Does the law in Mississippi apply to the geographic region and airspace, or only residents?

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 148 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (22 children)

I agree with mastodon, even though eventually Texas will enact similar legislation forcing me to use a vpn to read it

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 16 hours ago

What's wrong with your own personal 2M band radio network? Or just bring back CB culture. It's in the name: Citizen's Band...

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Last time i checked "states rights" didn't mean the right to impose your laws on people or businesses running out of other states.

If anyone from Mississippi wants to use our services I'm totally ready to ignore any and all laws that don't acknowledge to sovereignty of the net.

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