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Carney recommending 5 'nation-building projects' for approval, including LNG expansion: sources (www.cbc.ca)
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[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Are any of them high speed train?

Nope. Frustrating that the train is what made Canada a nation, and now it's ignored. While I'd love to see a high speed train coast to coast, is take Toronto to Quebec city. (Something which wouldn't benefit me on the west coast)

Project list:

- Phase two of LNG Canada in Kitimat, B.C., doubling its production of liquefied natural gas.
- The Darlington New Nuclear Project in Clarington, Ont., which will make small modular reactors.
- Contrecœur Terminal Container Project to expand the Port of Montreal.
- The McIlvenna Bay Foran Copper Mine Project in Saskatchewan. 
- The expansion of the Red Chris Mine in northwestern B.C.

Edit: it's listed in the Phase 2 project, since it's less developed

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Very next paragraph:

In addition, CBC News has learned Carney will also name additional projects that are at an earlier stage and require further development, but could be part of the next wave for consideration:

  • Wind West Atlantic Energy, supporting wind power in Atlantic Canada.
  • The Alberta-based Pathways Plus carbon capture project.
  • An Arctic economic and security corridor.
  • Upgrades to the Port of Churchill.
  • All-weather road infrastructure in Northern Canada.
  • The Alto high-speed rail corridor between Toronto and Quebec City.
[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

oops, that teaches me to read part of the article, and not the whole article!

Thanks!

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Editing your post so that others aren't mislead might be a good idea. A lot of people skim their feeds.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It does beg the question of what about the project "requires further development" - it seemed like a pretty comprehensive plan when I looked at it.

[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's very early, planning phase,

Would be nice to see it prioritized

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Carbon capture. What a fuckin joke. At this point I'm expecting all-weather roads to be solar freakin' roadways or equally as delusional.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 5 points 2 weeks ago

The Alto project is on the "secondary" list of projects that are likely next.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Carney also said he will ask the MPO to help with the development of a "Canadian Sovereign Cloud" that would build data centres and computing capacity in a way that ensures the country's competitiveness and digital sovereignty.

Alright, this is interesting. I doubt this would be undertaken by a crown corporation. I suspect it would be someone's private corp instead. If somehow it turns out to be a public op, I'd likely sign up to work on it.

[–] Subscript5676@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if we could just build out that infra and trade or sell the know-how or tech to other countries. I’m sure a lot of countries out there are pretty darn interested in replacing AWS. Displacing them would be hard, cause it takes a lot of money, and so years, to procure all that hardware, but it’d already be a big win if people would even consider hosting their business sites or apps outside of AWS/Azure/GCP.

One of the main seeking points of those services, however, is that it’s easy for software businesses to expand to different geographical locations by just deploying the same thing they build to the new environment, and that’s an enormous barrier for cloud providers, easily separating the smaller fishes from the big ones. Being able to share that tech with friendlier countries or countries with sufficiently cordial relations, would make it easier for businesses to do that.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Of course we could. The process is the same as it's been so far - producing open source software. There's already open source starting points like OpenStack, OpenShift, K8S, etc. Low cost can make up for the lack of features or polish. Lot's of people and businesses don't need most AWS has to offer but some of the basics.

[–] NGram@piefed.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nation-building but world-ending. That's quite a shortsighted strategy to promote 3 high-pollution projects (LNG and 2 mines) and no green projects (nuclear is technically zero-emission but it's still producing dangerous waste). Even including the second wave projects there's still more environmental destruction than protection.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There's a multi-GW wind project for Atlantic Canada.

There's no escape from mining. Copper is required for almost everything electric.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If we want to escape mining, give up your car, electronics, and appliances. That said, we should be making a more robust recycling system and standards to make things easier to recycle, then we could in theory reduce our dependance on mining new minerals.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This could be a false dichotomy, not only because of recycling, but also because we could make things ..gasp.. last longer. The amount of trash we generate currently that we could recycle is the result of the system maximizing profits. But if we do as we do today, it is how you say it is. Then even if we change how we make things, we still need to build a lot of stuff to cope with climate change and that'll probably require new material.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Getting rid of the disposable culture would help a lot, and not only making things last longer but making them possible to be repaired would go a long way too. And not possible in the sense of ship it back to the factory where they have a special screwdriver for that one bolt, we need to be repairable with reasonable tools and knowledge for most things.