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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago

Killing Kirk sure did put that Epstein shit way over to the side. Hmm...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

The Newspaper the Country Needs.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 61 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Honestly great article that summarizes my thoughts on this exactly. I live in the south and I am seeing a lot of people I really respect lose their fucking minds about this and start frothing at the mouth mourning this guy that they didn't know existed two weeks ago because all they know was that he was a "Christian activist" shot for his beliefs, either not realizing or not caring that the dude was racist as fuck and spent his whole life being a right wing internet troll but in real life.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Several of my colleagues did the same thing and I told them I have zero sympathy because Josef Goebbels and Heinrich Himmler had children too.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 3 hours ago

Also didn't Goebbels poison his own children before he and his wife commit suicide?

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago

The added "correction" at the bottom is gold. Im glad someone, somewhere, didnt pull punches. The media response to this has been sickening.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

And got paid lottery jackpot sums at age 31

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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 19 hours ago

The best thing about events like this is it helps me identify more or less trustworthy news sources by how they react to it. The Luigi case culled many

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago

The nation seems to be the only big paper with any rationality.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 32 points 20 hours ago

more articles like this should include the bit about how "[Biden should get the death penalty]"

the dude openly stated that a political figure he disagreed with should be killed. the right must acknowledge this statement while they whitewash his legacy of hate.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 42 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Joseph Goebbels was a gifted marketer and loving father to six children.

lol

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Who also killed all of them than let them live in postwar Germany...

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

*rather than

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 9 points 13 hours ago

Full sentence for anyone who is confused by the comment:

It’s a choice to write an obituary that begins “Joseph Goebbels was a gifted marketer and loving father to six children.”

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Heinrich Himmler too and his fucking Naz daughter believed in the asswipe until her death.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

And like any loving father, when faced with defeat, he murdered them all

[–] canajac@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

then he had them all killed....because of shame. HA!

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago

This is the only sane reaction to the situation by any media outlet I have seen so far

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 36 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

Every civilized country on earth has figured out that there needs to be acceptable limits to free speech and that freedom of speech does not equal freedom from the consequences of saying something.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 17 points 19 hours ago (12 children)

freedom from the consequences of saying something.

Freedom of speech in the US protects you from consequences from the government, not anyone or anything else. You can still get fired, or at, for your free speech.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

s/at/shot ?

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"It is rude of me to say all of this, because we live in a culture where manners are often valued more than truth." This is a really good quote actually

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Except that it's not entirely accurate. The right in particular only believes in manners on the left. They are perfectly comfortable saying truly vile shit, then feigning moral outrage if they get a tenth of the same energy back. The Alt-Right Playbook sums it up neatly: "You Go High, We Go Low."

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago

Except that this generally applies to life and not just politics. Another thing is that a lot of times it is the left that imposes this on their own and not even the right.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 68 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I do not believe anyone should be murdered because of their views, but that is because I don’t believe people should be murdered generally, regardless of who they are or what they’ve done. I am against the death penalty, pro–gun control, and believe war is a failure of humanity, not a necessary byproduct of it. Kirk was fine with murder as long the right people were dying.

Well said, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy a bit of schadenfreude at his passing.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

specifically, pleasure from his death, or pleasure that he is no longer alive?

the angry right wingers on the internet seem unable to understand the difference between the two

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

More that I won't have to hear any of his nonsense any more. Even the people eulogising him don't seem to be actually quoting him because they can't find anything he ever said that wasn't stupid.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 18 hours ago

see that's perfectly valid. how he died is irrelevant to that feeling.

[–] Doctorbllk@slrpnk.net 5 points 19 hours ago

Well-written and surprisingly thoughtful commentary given the heat so far

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