When TV's tamest talkshow host gets his show banned, you know we're in dystopian times.
So much for all the fascist right's posturing on "free speech" lol
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When TV's tamest talkshow host gets his show banned, you know we're in dystopian times.
So much for all the fascist right's posturing on "free speech" lol
He might be tame but he leans liberal and that can't be allowed because it hurts MAGA sensitive feelings. The lessons here is that MAGA positions immediately collapse under any sort of criticism or examination.
Never mind the hateful content Fox spews out 24/7.
Blah blah we want your money blah blah.
Exactly
Fuck em, arrr
I wrote a very angry letter, letting them know that I was switching my news source, cancelling Hulu, and in the future, I would pirate their content, and watch it without commercials.
That's three revenue-sucking situations that every network hates, and it worked, they caved.
I also told them that I expect them to hold the line on free speech, and if Trump threatens to remove their FCC license, dare him to do it. That FCC license gives them a responsibility to this nation. Folding like they tried to do is unacceptable.
So you saved jimmy's show?
I believe the implication was that a significant amount of other people also did this.
No, thats fairm i was needlessly pointing out how it seemed like they were taking credit for the whole thing. It was supposed to be a joke but looking back, it wasn't very funny.
I kinda wish Kimmel had told them to get fucked and went somewhere else, or started his own podcast.
We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy
You mean conversations with your lawyers. I'm sure Kimmel was lawyering up for breach of contract.
Kimmel would have been okay, but by some estimates there are as many as 200 staff members out of their job, and he'd never be able to take all of them with him. As cathartic it would have been to see him levave Disney, staying was the best option for his team.
I agree. "Yeah Disney, this is the consequence of your actions. Get fucked. Enjoy sucking Trump's dick." Would have been much better.
Well, now let's see what Jimmy Kimmel does. Will he come back toning down his rhetoric or will he start by thoroughly criticizing Kirk and Disney right as he gets back. I don't think there really is a third option. If he decide to not address this, he will always weigh the consequences of saying something before saying it (even subconsciously). And in that case, he is not worth watching.
Money, that's our only way of influence.
Yes, this really isn't difficult, or shouldn't be, but Americans are incredibly addicted to convenience. I've been saying for years now that we don't even need a general strike of workers not working, people simply need to stop being good little consumers for a while, only buy the essentials when necessary, cancel all extraneous services, stop using the fascists' platforms. In a consumer economy, consumers hold the cards, but unfortunately we've been trained well and think we cannot live without 37 different streaming services and food and whatever else you want delivered to your door, and then need to post about it all on TwitFaceAgram after a post about corporate 'Merica run amok.
A large enough percentage of the population buying only necessities local goods would get Trump ousted.
The monologue will be fire.
Indeed! But since it's Kimmel we'll have to wait and see if it's funny.
Let's fucking go. You don't have to pretend to have a spine anymore and watch Disney slop again.
Keep. On. Boycotting.
They're are just in PR damage control, they have not fired a single person or told Sinclair/Nextstar to fire those who actively voice support for fascism.
Sinclair is the one that needs to hurt at the moment since they refuse to run the show, let sponsors know you’re unhappy
Kimmel didn't make any "Charlie Kirk comments"
He made fun of Trump for not giving a shit about Kirk's death because he couldn't get over his 8 year old equivalent impulse control to start bragging about the monstrosity they built on top of the Rose Garden at the White House.
Lol, and now we get to watch everybody buy their memberships again and the company will move forward like nothing ever happened.
I mean at the very least, hopefully they (and others Trump inevitably goes after) won't be so willing to cave to authoritarian demands without a fight.
That's kind of the way this all works. If even the people that could definitely afford to fight this in court signal they're willing to just comply, then there's no hope for everyone else.
I think John Oliver put it best when he said the response should have been, and should always be going forward "Fuck you, make me."
Wait, so why wouldn't they (and others trump goes after) be willing to cave without a fight?
We just watched them cave immediately without a fight, and then revert their decision after having "thoughtful conversations" behind the scenes that we're not privy to.
We haven't seen any victory, any pushback against this trampling of free speech, any principled disagreement. We've seen an immediate kowtowing.
I don't know what those conversations behind the scenes entailed. I don't know the future. But I'm going to predict the show that gets returned to air will be (even more) neutered. They won't upset the administration again.
We'll see what he does when he returned, but Trump is definitely pissy he didn't get his way.
They demanded Kimmel be forced to apologize and I think pay money to the Charlie Kirk foundation. He did neither but for some reason his cancellation lasted less than a week.
They have the money and lawyers to fight this, they just didn't want the hassle. Suddenly when it looked like it would be cutting into their profits they found the motivation to fight back.
We also haven't heard from Carr as far as I know. This could still end up in court unless Carr is willing to just back down.
Holy shit boycotting works?
if it happens yes, the problem with boycotting is most people online who say they will boycott something usually don't, or they weren't using it in the first place.
this is especially true for games
It's been sixteen fucking years.
it's just a perfect picture. but this regularly happens in games. gAmErS are the worst bunch in boycotts because most of them don't even have the discipline to wait for a fucking game to release let alone not play it at all. they just either "boycott" games they were never interested in at all in the first place or they just say it online for fake internet points and play the game anyway.
Except I'm not resubscribing Disney.
That's not how it works.
You haven't felt the pain of freedom of my wallet.
Not signing back up for Hulu after I canceled, fuck em
Good. Switching costs go both ways, there was probably someone who should've canceled but didn't.
If they wanted your money, they never should've canceled Jimmy to begin with.