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I bring a sort of "paying taxes to fascists is bad" vibe to the ethics discussion that libs don't really like

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[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In a practical sense - how long can you avoid paying federal income taxes before the IRS drags you away in cuffs? I know its a game of chicken. But Trump's slumpy stroke face gives me hope that the whole MAGA movement will dissolve when he doesn't wake up one morning because a cheeseburger clogged a vessel in his brain.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

how long

Pretty long time if you've got half a brain and only work under table.

Ask your local illegalist (anti? Something sometjing creative urge destructive urge?)social worker!

Edit: depending on your line of work and how on-grid you want to be, a shady accountant may also be required.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In a practical sense - how long can you avoid paying federal income taxes before the IRS drags you away in cuffs?

just fucking move. I left the UK because they are funding a dragnet survailance operation worldwide, and I'm doing good.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Its genuinely very difficult to move out of the US if you aren't decently wealthy.

Native born americans are at a severe disadvantage moving anywhere else in the world. If you're a UK citizen you can hop on a plane and have full rights on any corner of the earth. But I'm exploring possible avenues in case things get really bad here. I'm still crossing my fingers that Trump bites it from natural causes and the subsequently maga movement collapses in upon itself.

[–] compostgoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Leaving the country, for a trip or whatever, isn’t too hard if you already have a passport. Moving out permanently and living in another country is much harder and more expensive. Prohibitively so, for the vast majority of Americans.

And, just for fun, if you pull it off, the US still expects you to pay taxes to both it and your new country of residence

[–] FundMECFS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And , just for fun, if you pull it off, the US still expects you to pay taxes to both it and your new country of residence

only if you earn really high salary. Like much over 100k

[–] Shellbeach@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

But not if you are an American freelancer. In which case you're fucked by both countries

Ah gotcha, I didn’t know that!

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How expensive do you think a passport is?

[–] compostgoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s been a few years since I got mine… maybe a hundred dollars? A bit more? I remember being more distressed about having to mail away my physical birth certificate than the cost

EDIT: according to the State Department website, it’s $165 for an adult for the book

[–] WallsToTheBalls@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 week ago

You get a pretty fat tax deduction for living outside of the US, upwards of 100k

[–] compostgoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ethically? Totally agree. Practically? The IRS is one of the last three-letter agencies I want to piss off.