I was thinking about getting into mobile development. Guess I won't.
this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2025
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It's up to us, users of those FOSS apps, to collectively pour more money into the pockets of FOSS devs to make f-droid more important to their bottom line (and for a lot of FOSS apps that are also distributed on the play store, it won't be hard to be a bigger financial input) so that when the requirement is pushed to their play store account, they feel free to decide to side with their hearts and say goodbye play store, knowing this community will keep them fed.
Time for many of us to get aquainted with the liberapay button on most app pages in f-droid.
Oh, it's preventing sidloading?! I thought it was just for their app store!
That's shit.
If I understood correctly it doesn't prevent sideloading, but even apps not from the app store will need to have their creator's legal identity verified by Google. Meaning not only do they have to dox themselves, but they have to pay Google for the privilege. And if it's an app developed to not comply with Goggle's terms then it just won't be usable at all.
I see a mass migration to LineageOS, Graphene, Calyx in the very near future.
Yes, some of the latest commits to AOSP repo added code to the Package Installer app for denying .apk package installation based on developer verification result, and even for denying installing .apk packages when internet isn't available so it can't contact Google's servers for developer verification results. Google is already making it clear this kind BS is how they intend to enforce this ridiculous decree.
It is open source. Just remove that code, build, use F-Droid.
That's egregious and really will impede using open source software on Android. Guess my phone will turn into a device for tethering now, instead.
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Stop calling it "sideloading" as if it was something bad. Let's all call it "installing apps"
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If Google was smart they would hammer out some sort of agreement with F-droid
I'm not sure they are that smart
They are rich, they don't need to be smart
Once you reach orbit you can fall forever and never crash.
As I said & many others before me. We need a massive unified push towards breaking the OEM locks on our phones & make it compatible with Linux.
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I wish more people focused a bit more on the need to agree to terms and conditions, I didn't know that was a part of this issue and that massively increases the negative impact of this potential policy change
Google's terms and conditions are consistently draconian and stupid. Especially if it's the same terms and conditions applied to the play store, where apps constantly get pulled and devs are always frustrated as hell
Edit: I think pretty much everyone who replied regarding terms and conditions misunderstood what I meat, which leads me to believe I may have communicated poorly. My point is that early news coverage didn't mention independent apps needing to follow Google terms and conditions.
That's not just a privacy issue for devs, that's an issue of Google wanting control over what the apps and actually do, and it changes how severe of a problem this is. I've also learned since then that this may mean only the devs can distribute apps(?), which would potentially kill f-droid outside of custom roms (I still don't fully understand that part but that idea was also not in early coverage)
Well maybe companies should make clear concise terms and conditions. No one is reading 30 pages of documentation to use something.
I think pretty much everyone who replied regarding terms and conditions misunderstood what I meat, which leads me to believe I may have communicated poorly. My point is that early news coverage didn't mention independent apps needing to follow Google terms and conditions.
That's not just a privacy issue for devs, that's an issue of Google wanting control over what the apps and actually do, and it changes how severe of a problem this is. I've also learned since then that this may mean only the devs can distribute apps(?), which would potentially kill f-droid outside of custom roms (I still don't fully understand that part but that idea was also not in early coverage)
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Google's terms and conditions are consistently draconian and stupid.
They are not stupid, they are just intentionally malicious.
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Didn't apple just lose some court cases about this?
But what can we do beyond letting out elected officials who don't care know about it? How can we really push back against Google for doing this?
Donate to PostmarketOS so that we have a polished Linux alternative to Android.
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Fuck this is going to cripple my phone so bad.
What about those 40$ meshnet devices for real use and a google phone you keep in a foil pouch until you need to bank?
I will push with my current phone, for a few years. Luckily abd installs could do the trick for a while.
For when this phone is failing I hope the new partnership between GrapheneOS and a phone manufacturer that's not google is already working and producing a phone I could buy.
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