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Spotify Is Social Media Now? (newsroom.spotify.com)
submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by sunstoned@lemmus.org to c/music@lemmy.world
 

I've done it. I've finally reached my "old man yells at cloud" moment. Why, why, WHY is Spotify adding features straight out of the social media playbook?

Anybody have recommendations for alternatives?

In my head there's:

~~YouTube music~~ (google, gross)

~~Apple music~~ (no way they're not on a similar trajectory)

~~Bandcamp~~ (limited, but at least bands see some money from it)

~~SoundCloud~~ (weird reputation, though haven't come back around to it in a good 10 years)

Tidal maybe? Would love to hear some recommendations.

Edit: I neglected to mention why I don't like the messaging feature. I've never used it, yet with a few of my friends there are already dozens of song exchanges in the thread. It's clear that spotify has been using user-specific links for a while now to track who sends what to who. That's a pretty clear anti-feature for me, and is enough to make me jump ship.

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[–] mcforest@feddit.org 35 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Buying and ripping CDs is my way to go. Completely without social media features.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The social aspect is talking to the cashier.

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[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (9 children)

That’s so much effort and clutter when you can just download MP3s or FLACs from the web.

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[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, Apple Music is not that bad. Tried to love tidal but the app just really sucks with frequent crashes and terrible ui.

Thus far Apple Music feels like old apple playing the streaming game and I have yet to find enshitified features being added. Even the recommendations are more in line with my expectations, think of artists with new or upcoming releases that the app knows you’ve been listening too.

Ui wise I still miss Spotify, it WAS just better. But it’s going further from that everyday. Apple Music also has flac quality if that interests you and you don’t have to pay extra for it. In terms of paying artists, tidal still takes the crown and apple is second.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Apple Music also has flac quality if that interests you and you don’t have to pay extra for it

Spotify has this now as well and you don't pay extra for it

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

But Spotify adds ai features I don’t ask for

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Bandcamp because you discover music since albums are so cheap.

Qobuz is good IMHO. I've heard good things about Tidal too.

[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Seconding Qobuz. Feels a lot like the best of all of them. Streaming, massive library that captured most of my existing Spotify saved, and I can actually buy music to keep as well when I want an album

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

big fan of qobuz, the only reason i ever dabbled in spotify was to make sharing links easy

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Never left Pandora. Still works exactly like i set it up. Damn, 15years ago?

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I still just buy and maintain my own local music library.

[–] Shayeta@feddit.org 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Same, but I still want some form of a recommendation engine. I also want to discover new music.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's because we live in late stage capitalism. Our systems require infinite growth, so when Spotify tries to grow in an over saturated market. How else can they increase profits? Throw shit from all over the place to see what works. This issue is why every company jumped on the Ai bandwagon because it was the first real leap in a Market since the internet. Problem is 51% of all money spent in America was spent by the top 10% of the population. That top 10% only needs one Spotify subscription per person. The bottom 90% aren't going to waste money anymore on subscription services.

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[–] Freaky@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Try Metrolist for android. I don't know what is available for pc in this manner. And if you're one of the "If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing" people, then there's option to save the mp3 files from both Spotify's and Deezer's database. Any telegram bot titling this kinda thing will do the job.

[–] MichaelHawkinSnider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the recommendation! I explored the app (hopefully this is the project you were referring to), and I couldn't find an option to connect to Spotify to save MP3s. Can you elaborate or point me in the right direction?

[–] Freaky@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes. This is the one.

And for the telegram one, go to the searchbar and type : @DeezerMusicBot , then in the chat menu, /start the bot. Choose simple "search" and it'll appear in inline mode. Then type any song title and wait 3-4 seconds for it to appear. You can type Artist's name additionally if the song title is too much common.

After you make the bot appear in inline mode for the fist time in its own inbox, then go to the "Saved Messages" section of telegram and just type @

It should pop up the option to choose the entire bot. If it doesn't, simply continue further writing as shown in the picture and you're good to go.

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[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 14 points 5 days ago

Spotify has been on the way to ruin for a while already. The UI is partly Tiktokified/Instagramified.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Bandcamp + Yar har fiddle dee dee + Jellyfin or Plex.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

For music something like Navidrome is much better, IMO. But you could easily host it in addition to the former two, not instead.

Oh, and you can combine the subscription to Tidal with yar har by umm... permanently caching the songs offline by means of 3rd party tools. It might seem pointless at first glance, but having the music stored on your server ensures you'll keep having it, while you still can spontaneously explore new stuff on Tidal.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I'd steer away from Plex. Their devs have clearly been headed in the wrong direction. Enshittification inbound.

Obligatory I miss what.cd 🥲

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I recently cancelled spotify and switched to a selfhosted navidrome server to stream my personal music collection.

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[–] VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Tidal is great as far as streaming services go in general.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Its funny how people are still using Spotify when other services exist. But yea people, complain about Spotify and it's features.

Edit: if you don't like something quit it, don't complain. Companies don't understand until numbers start dropping.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I went to Spotify from Tidal because Tidal just didn't have the music I wanted to listen to.

I can't see myself wording until there's is a service that just has all music that I'm able to find through Spotify. Sad but true.

[–] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I went to YouTube music because I found spotify's library way too limiting

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's been a few years since, but the wholesale merging of music as a category with the entirety of YouTube really gets in my craw. Like, thanks, but I don't need or want "8 hours of AI-generated lo-fi chill beats for work and studying by xXx-alphachad69420-xXx" showing up when I'm looking for legitimate art to listen to.

[–] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

That doesn't seem to happen to me on the yt music app ever so idk

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I looked at it but at the time, Spotify wasn't as shit as it is today as a company. I just don't want to give Google my money anymore either.

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[–] arsCynic@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And Duolingo now has chess. What a complete joke; both those corporations and the people using everything uncritically.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

At least they went with an intellectual game instead of some brain rot, addictive, pay-to-unlock-levels bullshit.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm using Qobuz for music streaming. It's alright.

Last time I checked they pay artists more than the competition, they curate playlists and editorial content rather than pushing AI left and right, and my experience is generally good.

Minus points for lacking API and native Linux client. On desktop Linux the web app works well.

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Deezer is my streamer of choice, nearly identical with artists, OK discovery. Premium includes high def and you can currently stream to multiple devices, like, say, play on sonos for the Kids and listen to yourself without one device stopping

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[–] fdnomad@programming.dev 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I like streaming music, I dont need to own it, but I have been struggling to find a good music streaming service.

I used Spotify for years but the amount of garbage they keep adding made me cancel my subscription. The last straw was when "smart shuffle" kept automatically turning itself back on.

First I switched to YouTube Music but the user experience is honestly trash and I moved on pretty quickly. The separation between video and music service was ridiculously inconsistent.

I used Tidal for a few months and I appreciated the simple UI. However, the recommendations are insanely bad. Not once have I found a new, good track on the daily mix to add to my library, it was driving me crazy.

I started using Qobuz only a few weeks ago. The track radio is honestly pretty bad so far. I start the radio on a lofi track and start hearing video game ambience noises 5 tracks later. Literally bird sounds with whitenoise from an OST album. I havent tried the daily/weekly queue a lot yet, but I hope its decent because I dont know what to try next.

I wish Spotify hadn't entshittified, it had the best recommendations/radios by far but its just not usable for me anymore.

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